*Official* India Tour of England 2018

[Top_Cat]

Yes but Bumrah’s unproven as a Test cricketer - he’s only played 4 Tests. He should not be selected to play any more Test cricket until he plays more Tests.

 

[Gnske]

India should play this team for the fourth Test. It's the perfect balance, with proven Test cricketers and a quality, experienced attack.

Vijay
Rahul
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Karthik
Ashwin
Jadeja
Shami
Umesh
Ishant

Agreed, don't listen to these repugnant amoeba in this thread. They're professional contrarians.

 

[SteveWaugh]

This is what I hate about Indian fans. Emphasis on short-termism instead of experience and talent. The IPL, along with Kohli and Shastri's arrogance, has done a lot to harm us already. Now we are never going to be really known as a number 1 team, inspite of what the rankings say. Bumrah cost us the series in South Africa, now he, along with Pant, will cost us the series in England.

 

[harsh.ag]

SteveWaugh working hard to dispel the notion that meaningless platitudes are an English thing.

 

[cnerd123]

It was Bumrah's fault we lost in SA?

7 wickets @ 34 in the two Tests we lost, and then 7/111 in the one Test we won.

 

[Starfighter]

I love breaking down comments on here, but sometimes they just speak for themselves.

 

[Gnske]

It was Bumrah's fault we lost in SA?

7 wickets @ 34 in the two Tests we lost, and then 7/111 in the one Test we won.

Thank god he didn't take two more wickets in that test

 

[Daemon]

It was Bumrah's fault we lost in SA?

7 wickets @ 34 in the two Tests we lost, and then 7/111 in the one Test we won.

eh, it was more the non-selection of Bhuvi than the selection of Bumrah. I don't think he bowled very well in the first two games but he wasn't the reason we lost. That falls squarely on the batting.

 

[Prince EWS]

Thank god he didn't take two more wickets in that test

I'm just happy he didn't take 14/88.

Has this ever been a set of match figures?

 

[OverratedSanity]

It was Bumrah's fault we lost in SA?

7 wickets @ 34 in the two Tests we lost, and then 7/111 in the one Test we won.

He bowled pretty badly in the first two tests tbh. Not picking Rahane/Bhuvi and AB/Faf playing great knocks way biggr reasons for the loss though.

 

[Prince EWS]

I think not selecting Umesh is a mistake, especially when the ball is likely to do something in the air, but dropping Bumrah now wouldn't actually make any sense. When suggesting changes you need to at least try to accept whatever logic the selectors did to pick the team for the previous Test, otherwise you're still just disagreeing with that rather than putting forward any real analysis.

 

[Daemon]

I would have picked Umesh before the previous Test. I still think Umesh is the better bowler but Bumrah is more likely to do better in the next couple of games at least.

 

[cnerd123]

I think Umesh is better on high-scoring decks and Bumrah is better on low-scoring ones. Umesh tends to bleed runs if he's off, Bumrah atleast keeps it tight.

 

[harsh.ag]

Would rather drop Ashwin than Bumrah

 

[Top_Cat]

Tbh, India as a team made a far bigger statement with their tactics than selection. They got caught out at Lords not punishing the bad balls, perhaps being a bit paranoid waiting for the good ones. Guys like Dhawan know exactly where England are going to bowl to him so rather than scoring ****-all waiting for the inevitable good one, you can apply some pressure back to the bowlers by making them worry a little about how many runs they’ll concede even when conditions are in their favour and you don’t personally cash-in. Pretty useful when your oppo has plenty of batting woes themselves.

Picking Bumrah over Yadav and a new ‘keeper were probably toss-ups that paid-off but the change in batting tactics was pretty noticeable. Yeah bowlers win matches but India’s last game was a decent example of how bats can contribute more without necessarily smashing 400+. And they did it basically a bowler short.

 

[SteveWaugh]

I am happy that people are at least admitting that Umesh is a better bowler than Bumrah. This does seem to be obvious, so I am waiting for Bumrah to fail in the next test and Umesh to get the chance (that he so thoroughly deserves) in the fifth.

 

[NotMcKenzie]

Rather petty attitude there.*

The possibility that Umesh might be a better bowler than Bumrah overall does not necessarily justify dropping the latter after he has succeeded and the former failed in this series.




*Maybe it is Steve Waugh

 

[vcs]

Tbh, India as a team made a far bigger statement with their tactics than selection. They got caught out at Lords not punishing the bad balls, perhaps being a bit paranoid waiting for the good ones. Guys like Dhawan know exactly where England are going to bowl to him so rather than scoring ****-all waiting for the inevitable good one, you can apply some pressure back to the bowlers by making them worry a little about how many runs they’ll concede even when conditions are in their favour and you don’t personally cash-in. Pretty useful when your oppo has plenty of batting woes themselves.

Picking Bumrah over Yadav and a new ‘keeper were probably toss-ups that paid-off but the change in batting tactics was pretty noticeable. Yeah bowlers win matches but India’s last game was a decent example of how bats can contribute more without necessarily smashing 400+. And they did it basically a bowler short.

Yes, the openers + Pujara + Rahane finally contributing was what made the difference in that game.

 

[harsh.ag]

I am happy that people are at least admitting that Umesh is a better bowler than Bumrah. This does seem to be obvious, so I am waiting for Bumrah to fail in the next test and Umesh to get the chance (that he so thoroughly deserves) in the fifth.

Hope you get to keep waiting

 

[Borges]

Yes, the openers + Pujara + Rahane finally contributing was what made the difference in that game.

Plus the bowlers (at least those who were fit) continuing to contribute to the cause.