Keaton Jennings is in this boat too (obviously). Career SR quite comfortably under Cook in tests with 24 career average in 9 Tests.
Mediocre medium fast bowling is in this club too. Especially if it's wayward.
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*Official* India Tour of England 2018
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Keaton Jennings is in this boat too (obviously). Career SR quite comfortably under Cook in tests with 24 career average in 9 Tests.
Mediocre medium fast bowling is in this club too. Especially if it's wayward.
Kohli is ok in my view, perfectly ok. Just being let down by his team. Kohli cap Ashwin vice seems good. Then Kohli fronts up to media etc and Ashwin is more the brains of the operation. To be fair Kohli himself isn't a bad captain.
Right now I don't know who the vice is btw, who is it?
good joke bro
tbh if a poster has good input it's pretty pointless keeping on ignore. I can see some of your posts before I login in (as I mentioned before)
At least trying something different gives them a chance. I do agree India may as well fold if he gets injured though (plus Kohli). Imagine if Kohli and Ashwin got injured before the next test. Lol just lol
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anaksr
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These are few gems from Virat collection:
SA Tour:-
1) Persisting with Rohit in saffers tests when everyone is sure that he just not into it.
2) Dropping vc Rahane
3) Keeping so called Hardik
4) Biggest of all. Dropping bhuvi
England Tour:-
1) Allowing Bhuvi to play that useless Shiite LO match so that our main bowler aggravates his injury and is out of test series.
2)Playing one spinner when two were required in 1st test
3)Playing two spinners when three genuine pacers were required in 2nd test under cloudy conditions.(common sense)
4) Not bowling Ashwin for a very lengthy time in 2nd innings.
These are highlighted gems of his. If we start counting then there will be no ending. I somehow feel that whatever success he had in LO is because Dhoni as he helps him. Otherwise he would have same in that format too.
If you still consider him to be ok captain then world is a weird place.
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Bit of a reach in terms of selections for the England tour. If Bhuvi was going to play an LO game and get injured, he could've very well broken down in the middle of a Test. I can accept the Kuldeep thing, but it's just a blip on the radar when compared to some of his other selections.
His biggest crime is keeping himself in the slip cordon.
This might be an unpopular opinion here, since the consensus is that he's been pretty poor, but I think Root makes a better test captain than Kohli. I think Kohli's too volatile to be honest. Constant chopping and changing just doesn't help his team's situation whatsoever, and I think this has played a very significant role in the team's downfall thus far.
I think something has to be said about the negative aspect of his intensity as well. I don't think it works particularly well in conjunction with the nature of his team. I get the impression that his teammates, who are already never really assured of their place in the starting XI, are being forced to play at a certain level of intensity that is unfamiliar to them, and as an expected standard of their performance. Pujara is the best example I can think of. I think it was in SA where Kohli commented on his intent, and then his runout problem escalated. In reality, in an era where test matches are regularly finishing with a couple of days left to play, Pujara didn't really have to change. He averages 50 afterall ffs. Not everyone performs at their best when trying to be 'fired up' and dominate the opposition in all faucets. It can be overbearing, and in the case of Pujara, he has been a shadow of his former self.
Of course, the flip side is that Kohli's own performances have elevated as captain. At best, you could say Root has stagnated. But in terms of pure team management skills and tactics I think Root has been more successful.
I think something has to be said about the negative aspect of his intensity as well. I don't think it works particularly well in conjunction with the nature of his team. I get the impression that his teammates, who are already never really assured of their place in the starting XI, are being forced to play at a certain level of intensity that is unfamiliar to them, and as an expected standard of their performance. Pujara is the best example I can think of. I think it was in SA where Kohli commented on his intent, and then his runout problem escalated. In reality, in an era where test matches are regularly finishing with a couple of days left to play, Pujara didn't really have to change. He averages 50 afterall ffs. Not everyone performs at their best when trying to be 'fired up' and dominate the opposition in all faucets. It can be overbearing, and in the case of Pujara, he has been a shadow of his former self.
Of course, the flip side is that Kohli's own performances have elevated as captain. At best, you could say Root has stagnated. But in terms of pure team management skills and tactics I think Root has been more successful.
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That's a dumb thing to say. You give him more chance of not breaking down by giving him rest before the tests. Playing him in a format he's not even good at was a terrible decision. Could he have broken down during the tests? Maybe. That doesnt mean you break him before the tests even begin and remove all doubt.
If anything I understand the Kuldeep over umesh thing more. People kinda expected the pitch to be much drier. They just misread it which happens.
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I don't mind Kohli's actual captaincy; they just need to structure their management better so he doesn't have so much say over selection (or at least put someone with a more sensible selection philosophy than him - ie. not Shastri - on the panel to balance it out). On-field he's definitely better than Root IMO.
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Aus will be an easier series than this tbf.
Shri
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Not a high bar that.
Kohli loves winning too much to do that
England tour they badly messed up selection first two tests. But I checked and there's a full selection committee involved. Harsh to just blame Kohli.
I know he's made mistakes, but all captains have and in my opinion he's a winner and a leader. He has a huge passion for winning and that's great to have in a captain. Just my opinion anyway and he's a superior captain and batsman to Root in my view.
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There's no doubting that he's an emotional guy but how does that wear on a team when things aren't going as well? There'd be some Indian batsmen working as hard as they can to try and produce and failing at the moment, afraid of being on the receiving end of a cook or being dropped. Kohli's talked in the IPL about having to just go and find others who want it enough, etc. last year; is he going to have the right effect on the players when things aren't going to plan?
To be fair, at the other end was Dhoni's non-plussed nature, which couldn't stop trips to England and Australia spiralling out of his control when things went wrong, even though it worked so often in shorter forms and overall was a plus for India.
To be fair, at the other end was Dhoni's non-plussed nature, which couldn't stop trips to England and Australia spiralling out of his control when things went wrong, even though it worked so often in shorter forms and overall was a plus for India.