*Official* India Tour of England 2018

[OverratedSanity]

That was PEWS.

And me tbh.

And it was not wrong at all. Because Vijay was good, and more importantly, at the time there weren't exact;y Gavaskars and Huttons opening the batting for teams in test cricket. Cook was inconsistent, Warner was up and down (mostly down overseas). All other openers apart from those three were rubbish. So saying Vijay was in the top handful of openers wasn't a controversial opinion. It was solid fact.

 

[91Jmay]

To be fair, playing devils advocate slightly it's a lot easier to be unbeaten/competitive in 3 Tests than 5.

 

[cnerd123]

Remember when Indian fans were proclaiming Vijay to be among the best, if not "the best" opener in the world?

Because he was, at the time.

Remember when Australian fans were proclaiming Bradman to be the best batsman in the world? Well now he hasn't scored a run for the last 70 years and has completely fallen out of the ICC rankings. Doesn't even play FC anymore. The hack.

 

[Black_Warrior]

I know how test cricket works. You need 20 wickets to win.

And I'm saying the more runs you put on the board, the higher the chance to get 20 wickets

Well England would bat again if required. At least it gives you best time to take 10 wickets. And then make runs if required.

And no England does not want to bat again. You don't want to bat again on Day 5 and give the opposition a window.

 

[Pratters]

Which would require more time. So what exactly did you achieve with an early declaration.

Ensuring giving yourself best chance to take all 20 indian wickets.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Which would require more time. So what exactly did you achieve with an early declaration.

You never know for sure about the weather though. A first innings lead of 200+ is massive, you shouldn't need more to win, even if you do have to bat again. If you do keep batting and get the lead to 350-400 to ensure you won't have to bat again, then India do somehow come away with a draw then you look pretty stupid for batting on.

 

[cnerd123]

I think declaring 150 ahead would have been more than enough runs to ensure England can't lose.

 

[Hicheal Michael]

i prefer when england collapse in comical fashion


completely removes any need to debate declarations

 

[91Jmay]

Woakes bowling really well here again. Anderson operating too short at the moment, would get Curran on soon.

 

[OverratedSanity]

India finally match Woakes' 137 for the match.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

All the talk of Stokes returning requires a couple of things anyway, firstly he has to be cleared in that case and secondly even if he is how is he going to be mentally after it? Will he be ready to play a test match anyway.

 

[OverratedSanity]

All the talk of Stokes returning requires a couple of things anyway, firstly he has to be cleared in that case and secondly even if he is how is he going to be mentally after it? Will he be ready to play a test match anyway.

Bowled great when he didn't know if he was going to jail or not last week. No reason to think he won't do well if he's cleared.

 

[Black_Warrior]

And me tbh.

And it was not wrong at all. Because Vijay was good, and more importantly, at the time there weren't exact;y Gavaskars and Huttons opening the batting for teams in test cricket. Cook was inconsistent, Warner was up and down (mostly down overseas). All other openers apart from those three were rubbish. So saying Vijay was in the top handful of openers wasn't a controversial opinion. It was solid fact.

Tsk tsk can't think beyond Cook, Warner and Vijay

#Big3Bias

 

[Top_Cat]

Rahane and Pujara looking about as good as one could expect given the attack and conditions. Especially like how Rahane has pulled his bat closer to his right hip in an effort to play late. India’s best chance for a partnership.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Tsk tsk can't think beyond Cook, Warner and Vijay

#Big3Bias

What does this have to do with anything? We're talking about 2014-15, ****. Read the entire discussion.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Bowled great when he didn't know if he was going to jail or not last week. No reason to think he won't do well if he's cleared.

Could have been a case of **** it might never play again so went for it. Once the thing is over the strain mentally may wipe him out for a bit.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Been saying it for a while. Drop one of the openers and slot Pujara in.

 

[Black_Warrior]

What does this have to do with anything? We're talking about 2014-15, ****. Read the entire discussion.

Yeah I'm sure Azhar was your pick for best opener in the 2016-17 discussion.

 

[Hicheal Michael]

Could have been a case of **** it might never play again so went for it. Once the thing is over the strain mentally may wipe him out for a bit.

i don't think too much bothers him

 

[Black_Warrior]

Poor from Rahane. He was playing late so well until now