*Official* India Tour of England 2018

[Pratters]

There are times when you make really odd posts out of nowhere. There is not one single team in Test cricket who would settle for a 100 run lead under the similar match situation with the opportunity for a much bigger lead.

Here's how Test cricket works

The higher the lead, the higher the chances you will bowl out the opposition cheaply in the 2nd innings because they would be under so much pressure staring at a massive innings defeat, not to mention the physical aspect of fielding for extended periods

The lower the lead, the more the opposition will fancy saving the match and have more belief that they can save the match.

In Test cricket, in a situation like the one England found themselves in, you want a scenario where India already be mentally defeated before they step out to bat again and the way to do that is to kill them with runs.

I know how test cricket works. You need 20 wickets to win.

 

[OverratedSanity]

LOL England have only themselves to blame if this match is drawn. Should have declared with a lead of 100.

Whatever you say, Warney

 

[flibbertyjibber]

The way India play over here can we start giving them a 2 match series and give 5 games to a more competitive side?

 

[Starfighter]

???Jimmy took more wickets at a much lower average than TRJ did against SA (20 @ 14.10 vs 10 @22.20).

Anyone else remember Adder's (I think) 'Summer of the Jimmy' sig?

The only lad who took more wickets than Jimmy vs SA was Moeen when he was in god mode.

So weird how good he was then and now a year later he's not even in the team.

 

[Groundking]

Rain predicted on day 4 and 5. Declaring with a lead of 100 made absolute sense. You don't win tests by just making runs, you need wickets.

You're brain dead. We're talking about weather in England one of the toughest places in the world to accurately predict the weather as it's so variable, and you're advocating a ridiculously early declaration whilst there's still more than 2 days left in the test and conditions were still good for batting, purely because of a sketchy forecast.

 

[Pratters]

So suppose we have 40 overs more, England should have seen that given the prediction.

At tea on day 3 they could have declared. That gave him fair few overs to get the 10 wickets and then make a few more runs if required.

I don't see why this is ridiculous at all. When you play a test match you have to give yourself the best chance to win that test.

 

[OverratedSanity]

The way India play over here can we start giving them a 2 match series and give 5 games to a more competitive side?

Pakistan definitely deserved more than 2 after how well they did back in 2016.

 

[weldone]

Remember when Indian fans were proclaiming Vijay to be among the best, if not "the best" opener in the world?

That was PEWS.

 

[Groundking]

Anyone else remember Adder's (I think) 'Summer of the Jimmy' sig?


So weird how good he was then and now a year later he's not even in the team.

I still think he should be in the team tbh, but tough away tours can really destroy players and it was pretty obvious that he was mentally shot after Australia, let alone NZ.

 

[OverratedSanity]

So suppose we have 40 overs more, England should have seen that given the prediction.

At tea on day 3 they could have declared. That gave him fair few overs to get the 10 wickets and then make a few more runs if required.

I don't see why this is ridiculous at all. When you play a test match you have to give yourself the best chance to win that test.

A 100 run lead does not give you "the best chance to win the test match". All it needs is a couple of good partnerships and if India get those 100 with minimal damage, it's anyone's game.

The fact that India's lineup is awful and probably could've folded for sub 100 is completely besides the point.

 

[Pratters]

You're brain dead. We're talking about weather in England one of the toughest places in the world to accurately predict the weather as it's so variable, and you're advocating a ridiculously early declaration whilst there's still more than 2 days left in the test and conditions were still good for batting, purely because of a sketchy forecast.

Its not ridiculously early a lead of 100 with India's batting is apt safe guard. Rain on day 4 and 5 has been predicted and it is happening. If they wanted more cushion they could have declared with a lead of 150. Maximum.

 

[91Jmay]

Ball not doing a huge amount, Indian batsmen should be able to dig in here and score.

 

[Pratters]

A 100 run lead does not give you "the best chance to win the test match". All it needs is a couple of good partnerships and if India get those 100 with minimal damage, it's anyone's game.

The fact that India's lineup is awful and probably could've folded for sub 100 is completely besides the point.

Well England would bat again if required. At least it gives you best time to take 10 wickets. And then make runs if required.

 

[Starfighter]

Its not ridiculously early a lead of 100 with India's batting is apt safe guard. Rain on day 4 and 5 has been predicted and it is happening. If they wanted more cushion they could have declared with a lead of 150. Maximum.

It sounds almost like you're doing some sort of after-the-fact Gambhiring where you wanted England to declare with a small lead to give India a chance.

 

[Pratters]

It sounds almost like you're doing some sort of after-the-fact Gathering where you wanted England to declare with a small lead to give India a chance.

No..

 

[OverratedSanity]

Well England would bat again if required.

Which would require more time. So what exactly did you achieve with an early declaration.

 

[Groundking]

So suppose we have 40 overs more, England should have seen that given the prediction.

At tea on day 3 they could have declared. That gave him fair few overs to get the 10 wickets and then make a few more runs if required.

I don't see why this is ridiculous at all. When you play a test match you have to give yourself the best chance to win that test.

What a ridiculous statement, you've pulled that 40 overs left thing from your arse. There's 2 days of cricket left and the forecast for tomorrow is decent. And regardless of the forecast you cannot declare based on it due to how often its wrong. You get the runs first whilst the conditions are good. Stop being asinine and ridiculous.

 

[Hicheal Michael]

lol @ the sympathy the indian players are getting for not being used to these conditions in the crapinfo comments

lol, there seems to be that one guy whose job is to chime in every so often to change the conversation and keep the non-indian readers interested.

'who makes way for stokes?', for like the 10th time this match

 

[91Jmay]

Not sure Anderson needs to drag his length back quite this much. Bit fuller would be better.

 

[Black_Warrior]

It's weird because you'd imagine having a more competitive and exciting series would lead to more money from all those involved, but at the moment it seems the broadcasting/sponsorship/viewership numbers aren't tied into the actual competitiveness of the team's involved, just the reputation.

I'd imagine after a game like this, and a 2-0 scoreline, less people would bother to watch the next 3 tests than they would if it was 1-0 or 1-1.

Yeah competitiveness has nothing to do with what gets broadcaster interest or what series takes place.

Pakistan have been more competitive in England than Australia and India combined in recent years. Guess who gets 5 Tests and who gets 2.

New Zealand are the only other unbeaten side in England. Don't think they're touring any time soon.