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*Official* India Tour of England 2018
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harsh.ag
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That's Sangakkara, right?Graph of batsmen who have been #1 in both tests and ODIs:
ankitj
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Can you do this for bowlers too? Thanks.Graph of batsmen who have been #1 in both tests and ODIs:
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Yeah I just noticed the date. Don't think Stackpole would have topped the rankings at 70 years old.
Shri
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No. Because I found it on reddit.
Howe_zat
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I did some digging and found Stackpole was in a bit of a purple patch in both formats around the time that ODIs were introduced but it's still a weird case. His Test #1 ranking comes from generally being a good player who was in the top 10 for five years, and top scored in the 1972 Ashes, but he still only scored one hundred in that series - team mate Greg Chappell scored two - and considering people like Sobers were around (averaged 75 in the calendar year 1971, and didn't have all his runs for the world XI counted) you feel the rankings have been kind to Stackpole.
The ODI record is even weirder. When Stackpole took the #1 spot in August 1972 there had been four ODIs played. The first was in Melbourne in 1971 after the Ashes, and the return series in England in 1972 had three. Stackpole played in all of them and hit two fifties with a high score of 61, but was the second highest run scorer as Dennis Amiss had played the three matches in England and scored 103 (the only ODI ton), 25 and 40. Still according to the rankings, it was at the end of the summer Stackpole #1, Amiss #2.
wpdavid
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Maybe Amiss lost out because he had only played 3 matches whereas Stackpole had played in all 4 of them. But I won't pretend to know how these things work.
Like you, I had a look at these early ODIs after reading the above. Lovely to see Boycs scoring at a RR of 21 in the inaugural match.
Interesting to see Keith Fletcher regarded as a one-day specialist. iirc he played on 8 of the first 9 ODIs played anywhere. Something like that, anyway. Alan Knott also played in most of the first 8 or 9 ODIs. But neither played in the 5th one. so maybe that didn't involve England.
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Howe_zat
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Yep, the 5th ODI was New Zealand v Pakistan at Christchurch in a one off the following winter. Highest strike rate in the NZ innings was 69, no one scored a fifty, and they still won by 22 runs. Snrk.
By the time the first world cup rolled around there had been 18 ODIs played. England had played 15 of them, Australia 7, New Zealand 7, Pakistan 3, India 2 and West Indies 2.
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The Kohli-Tendulkar comparison in overseas series - ESPNcricinfo
Sachin really should have played more Test cricket in his peak. Kohli will have played as many Test matches away from Asia as him in half the time. Big teams also weren't touring India much in that decade. I think England, SA and WI played 3 Tests each and Australia played 4 in India in the '90s .
Sachin really should have played more Test cricket in his peak. Kohli will have played as many Test matches away from Asia as him in half the time. Big teams also weren't touring India much in that decade. I think England, SA and WI played 3 Tests each and Australia played 4 in India in the '90s .
wpdavid
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The Kohli-Tendulkar comparison in overseas series - ESPNcricinfo
Sachin really should have played more Test cricket in his peak. Kohli will have played as many Test matches away from Asia as him in half the time. Big teams also weren't touring India much in that decade. I think England, SA and WI played 3 Tests each and Australia played 4 in India in the '90s .
Sachin really was very young at the start of the chosen period though. I have no idea when it would be reasonable to start making comparisons, but 18/19 does seem rather young.
srbhkshk
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India just didn't play enough tests during that period - from the start of 93 to the end of 2001, sachin played a total of just 15 tests in the non-sc countries (excluding windies) and averaged 60 , Including windies he played 20 - with pretty much the same average.