*Official* India Tour of England 2018

[cnerd123]

What's wrong with Kuldeep and Umesh

 

[Pratters]

Shami is bowling way better than what he was around 2014 though.

Maybe BUT

Eight tests in last two years,
Twelve tests in first three years.

Ten tests in 2016 in the middle.

Doesn't fill me with confidence. Will crumble like a paper dosa in the first opportunity.

 

[trundler]

Nothing. I feel fans are getting a bit ahead of themselves with India's bowling here by drawing such wild comparisons as this is India's first competent bowling unit since Amar and Nissar.

 

[R!TTER]

What's wrong with Kuldeep and Umesh

Typical Indian names don't roll off the tongue, though they're relatively easy. The Yadavs, or Keiths, has a nice ring to it. Makes it sound like an unfolding "mystery"

 

[Shri]

Yadav's going to disappoint us. Root started playing him easily by the time the last odi came around. I guess he'll take a lot of tailend wickets though if given the chance to bowl to 'em.

 

[Burner]

Yadav's going to be the least of India's problems imo. I still think India not selecting him in the SA series was a major blunder. He's brilliant recently from what I've seen.

 

[BSM]

Kuldeep will do fine if he plays. Root got the better of him by the end of the series, but I think he's just an exceptional player of spin. I've very rarely seen him get out to spin in any of the three formats anyway. It was kind of strange to see him struggle initially.

Saying that, there isn't much evidence to suggest that the likes of Bairstow and Stokes will be able to play him any better, and the tail will naturally struggle with the variations as well.

 

[Bahseph]

I see that the Test squad has Jadeja, Ashwin and Kuldeep. I'm with whoever said that it would be wiser to perhaps go with Ashwin at 7 instead of Pandya as the allrounder. I'm a big Ashwin fan, and while I don't expect him to dominate the game like he would in India, I think he has what it takes to do the job abroad. Can't see Jadeja playing. Or maybe I'm out of the loop?

 

[Daemon]

With Bhuvi out I find it a pretty risky strategy to go in with 5 bowlers. At the same time I do want Kuldeep. Tough.

 

[Prince EWS]

Yadav's going to disappoint us. Root started playing him easily by the time the last odi came around. I guess he'll take a lot of tailend wickets though if given the chance to bowl to 'em.

Yadav's going to be the least of India's problems imo. I still think India not selecting him in the SA series was a major blunder. He's brilliant recently from what I've seen.

I have a feeling Shri was talking about Kuldeep but Burner replied talking about Umesh, here.

 

[Prince EWS]

With Bhuvi out I find it a pretty risky strategy to go in with 5 bowlers. At the same time I do want Kuldeep. Tough.

I think the selectors will probably split the difference on this and pick five "bowlers" but make one of them Pandya.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

13 Don't be shy of picking six batsmen. Especially when playing on a green seamer. In Johannesburg this year, for example, an extra batsman would have been more helpful than the few overs Hardik Pandya got in. While he has proved himself to be a better option than Stuart Binny, who went to England in 2014, Pandya is best utilised on flatter pitches, where bowlers need frequent breaks and batting doesn't demand the best technique.

4 Don't rule out spin. India's overseas wins are usually two kinds: low-scorer on a seaming track or runs on board and then spin, spin, spin. One of India's three wins in England this century was through spin. The Tests on this tour are in August and September, by which time the pitches will be tired and worn out. Keep open the option of playing two spinners - one wrist and one finger - with R Ashwin playing the allrounder's role.

What India need to do to win in England | The Cricket Monthly | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[vcs]

That was a truly pointless article. The quality of cricinfo articles has really declined over the years.

 

[Borges]

Picking an extra batsman on a green mamba isn't going to help very much if that extra batsman is either Dhawan or Nair.
We have only five batsmen + a keeper who can hold a bat + Hardik who can hold a bat.
If both Purara and Vijay are going to flop, it's only the bowling that can bail us out.

Don't rule out spin; at the same time don't presuppose by looking at the calendar that every track is going to be more helpful to the spinners.
English groundsmen are far more competent than those in other parts of the world. Pick Ashwin instead of Pandya if and only if the pitch warrants it.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

That was a truly pointless article. The quality of cricinfo articles has really declined over the years.

Sorry you didn't enjoy it. I genuinely did. I'd agree that it is hardly in depth, and is just a superficial gloss over issues. But it was a good list of issues and discussion points imo.

I found it quite remarkable re: the dropped catches at slips.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Picking an extra batsman on a green mamba isn't going to help very much if that extra batsman is either Dhawan or Nair.
We have only five batsmen + a keeper who can hold a bat + Hardik who can hold a bat.
If both Purara and Vijay are going to flop, it's only the bowling that can bail us out.

Don't rule out spin; at the same time don't presuppose by looking at the calendar that every track is going to be more helpful to the spinners.
English groundsmen are far more competent than those in other parts of the world. Pick Ashwin instead of Pandya if and only if the pitch warrants it.

Yeah totally agree with your second point. On your first, I'm not entirely sure on, but you know Dhawan, Nair and the available batsmen better than I do.

Nair did have some runs vs WI A

 

[vcs]

Sorry you didn't enjoy it. I genuinely did. I'd agree that it is hardly in depth, and is just a superficial gloss over issues. But it was a good list of issues and discussion points imo.

I found it quite remarkable re: the dropped catches at slips.

I can sum it up for you:

• Make runs
• Take wickets
• Don't drop catches
• Play well
• Don't be ****

 

[TheJediBrah]

Sorry you didn't enjoy it. I genuinely did. I'd agree that it is hardly in depth, and is just a superficial gloss over issues. But it was a good list of issues and discussion points imo.

I found it quite remarkable re: the dropped catches at slips.

I think it was sensible, but kind of just stating the obvious. Like none of it really needed to be said or provided any special insight

 

[marc71178]

The only surprising thing based on the quality of it was that it wasn't written by Moonda.

 

[harsh.ag]

Is Karthik a good enough keeper for tests? Perhaps Pant should play. Don't think Karthik will have much on Pant in the batting stakes anyway,