Name an International Player of any International Team you would draft for your team

[Mr Miyagi]

The ICC have given us player metric rankings for a long time now for batsmen, bowlers and all-rounders.

But these don't always reveal what is a missing link in any particular team, or a players value in increasing any given team's performance.

I imagine for a lot of weak ODI batting teams post ABdV, Virat Kohli is indisputably the one that many would most desire, but not necessarily in all formats given where their current weaknesses lie.

For instance, in NZ's case, for the test team, a high quality spinner may be more beneficial to swapping out Nicholls for Smith or Kohli. Alternatively it may be an spin allrounder like Ashwin, Jadeja, (especially in Asia), Shadhab or Shakib.

And in T20i, NZ would benefit more from a keeper bat like Buttler or a death bowler like Bumrah, than Smith or Kohli.

So I'll kick things off:

Tests:

Steve Smith pre-ban or Virat Kohli now (still really need a spinner - but Lyon make team balance near impossible for my liking, middle order batting and test quality spin are still issues for NZ at present)

ODI:

Bairstow (Munro to middle order for Nicholls) or Chris Woakes or Shakib, (there's 3 big problems in NZ ODI team at present, opener, middle order and allrounder, I assume Dre Russ is unavailable)

T20:

Jos Buttler or Bumrah (Wicket keeping and death bowling are major issues).

Try it for your own teams.

If conditions or Opposition team make it too difficult to choose, just list them all separately.

So Sri Lanka may want Dale Steyn in Australia for example, but may prefer Pujara at home.

 

[cnerd123]

The Kiwis have actually done this IRL


We want Mark Chapman back, ****s

 

[Mr Miyagi]

The Kiwis have actually done this IRL


We want Mark Chapman back, ****s

But CdG, Watling and Wagner worked out so much better that you cannot expect us to give up on these tactics

But this is more from the All Golds concept, where NZ was given one rugby league player from Australia to do a ruby tour of the UK. It was meant to be their best player, who got injured, then their second best, who got injured, and then instead of going with the third best, the Kiwis took a popular guy instead.

 

[Bolo]

Shakib for any team not from the SC.
Rabada for any team from the SC

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Shakib for any team not from the SC.
Rabada for any team from the SC

In all formats?

I have to ask - they're mutli format players.

I considered Shakib for my NZ test team, but his bowling in Asia against Asian teams isn't the best.

 

[Prince EWS]

But this is more from the All Golds concept, where NZ was given one rugby league player from Australia to do a ruby tour of the UK. It was meant to be their best player, who got injured, then their second best, who got injured, and then instead of going with the third best, the Kiwis took a popular guy instead.

So true.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

So true.

And we really needed a half that tour too!

 

[Bolo]

In all formats?

I have to ask - they're mutli format players.

I considered Shakib for my NZ test team, but his bowling in Asia against Asian teams isn't the best.

No, just tests.

In LO, everyone gets Kohli. India can have Buttler.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

No, just tests.

In LO, everyone gets Kohli. India can have Buttler.

I really don't think Kohli adds much to NZ or England.

I know Kohli is better than Root and Williamson. I give no arguments there. But he doesn't strengthen a weakness, and what they gain, isn't huge compared to their weaknesses. But I think NZ's all-rounder problem or more pressing than squeezing Ross to 5 and Latham to 6. Colin Munro is not putting up runs, but he is needed because CdG isn't bowling 10 and has only batted us to victory ONCE.

But I also value Bairstow's opening runs at good pace.

For England, they need a bowler in my opinion. Either a spinner like Shakib to replace Moeen being the most obvious, or at the very least a Rabada type before Woakes is back. England is already failing to find room for Hales, nor given Hain and Malan a shot at playing. Batting isn't a major concern for them. Their bowling is.

 

[Bolo]

I really don't think Kohli adds much to NZ or England.

I know Kohli is better than Root and Williamson. I give no arguments there. But he doesn't strengthen a weakness, and what they gain, isn't huge compared to their weaknesses. But I think NZ's all-rounder problem or more pressing than squeezing Ross to 5 and Latham to 6. Colin Munro is not putting up runs, but he is needed because CdG isn't bowling 10 and has only batted us to victory ONCE.

But I also value Bairstow's opening runs at good pace.

For England, they need a bowler in my opinion. Either a spinner like Shakib to replace Moeen being the most obvious, or at the very least a Rabada type before Woakes is back.

Kohli plus a specialist bowler is a stronger batting lineup than a specialist bat plus an allrounder.

Maybe England could do better. Kohli is the wrong type of player, but he's so good I'm not sure if it matters.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Kohli plus a specialist bowler is a stronger batting lineup than a specialist bat plus an allrounder.

Maybe England could do better. Kohli is the wrong type of player, but he's so good I'm not sure if it matters.

NZ don't need Kohli with a top 4 of Guptill, Munro, KW and Taylor. What they need a solution to Munro not scoring runs but bowling out CDG's overs. And NZ need someone to bat 7, (esp with Latham 5, Nicholls 6 and CDG 7). Santner has only just started looking good at 8 after playing since 2015. I'd be favouring the All Rounder myself. But I like Bairstow's -Munro-esque approach to hitting, just his success is so much higher as he far more shots to play to gaps. Munro's longon to mid wicket to square approach is just so known by all cricketers these days. NZ's problem is compounded by CDG and Munro almost be mutually dependent on each other to play.

 

[mr_mister]

Ben Stokes. When was our last quality test all-rounder? Richie Benaud?

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Ben Stokes. When was our last quality test all-rounder? Richie Benaud?

What about your ODI and T20i sides?

(With and without Smith/Warner will make it more interesting for Aussies too), but I expect a lot of Kohli responses with Smith at 4.

 

[Flem274*]

Pretty easily Shakib for the test side, regardless of his bowling in Asia. Also provides the flexibility to either bat very deep or play four genuine pacers. I'd go bat ridiculously deep since CdG has been good with the bat and a very tidy 5th bowler/Kanes new opening bowler for the lols

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Pretty easily Shakib for the test side, regardless of his bowling in Asia. Also provides the flexibility to either bat very deep or play four genuine pacers. I'd go bat ridiculously deep since CdG has been good with the bat and a very tidy 5th bowler/Kanes new opening bowler for the lols

What about ODI (and T20 if you follow it?)

 

[Borges]

My I have Colin de Grandhomme, please. For all formats, including the one played by twelve clowns without a trapeze in Honk Kong.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

My I have Colin de Grandhomme, please. For all formats, including the one played by twelve clowns without a trapeze in Honk Kong.

In all seriousness, CdG is a walk up starter ahead of Hardik Pandya in the Indian test team.

The great man has done great things in tests.

 

[J_C]

Rabada in Tests could probably help us win series in AUS/SA. Buttler would solve our middle-order problems in ODIs. Can't think of an obvious upgrade in T20Is.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Rabada. I'd probably trade our entire batting lineup to South Africa just to get him.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Rabada. I'd probably trade our entire batting lineup to South Africa just to get him.

What about for ODI?

Raina, Dhoni, Pandya at 5, 6 and 7...

With BK and Bumrah plus a plethora of spinners you still want Rabada?