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***Official*** Australia in England 2018
- Thread starter Mr Miyagi
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Bijed
International Regular
Sorry if you feel you've been treated roughly and that we've been abrasive
Groundking
International Debutant
I simply don't understand Australia's approach to their innings today. It's well proven now that their bowling can't cope with our batting prowess, and tbf it's not like any team recently have been able to consistently keep them down, so surely the only option they have available to give themselves a chance of winning without just blindly hoping for a lolapse, is to be a bit braver with the batting, take a few risks and actually have a go? This is all whilst coming up against our weakest bowling attack so far this series, with Plunkett also being out alongside Woakes, the only 2 pace lads that have been taking wickets sub 30 over the past 3 years.
So why on earth did they think it was a good idea with 2 batsmen set without a loss of a wicket to just let Root bowl at them ffs? If they took at chance and smacked him out of the game that forces Morgan to have to re asses his options a bit again, and perhaps he has to give Overton a couple more overs who they did manage to score more freely against, and perhaps get to a total more in the 350-370 range where their bowlers might actually have a chance with a bit of scoreboard pressure. I don't know why anybody thought that it would be a interesting chase asking this England team who are dominant chasing, to simply go a touch quicker than 6 an over. We got there with 32 balls to spare, even with Root and Hales ****ing about for 13.2 overs of the game going sub 80 SR.
Anyway onwards and upwards, time to complete the 5-0.
So why on earth did they think it was a good idea with 2 batsmen set without a loss of a wicket to just let Root bowl at them ffs? If they took at chance and smacked him out of the game that forces Morgan to have to re asses his options a bit again, and perhaps he has to give Overton a couple more overs who they did manage to score more freely against, and perhaps get to a total more in the 350-370 range where their bowlers might actually have a chance with a bit of scoreboard pressure. I don't know why anybody thought that it would be a interesting chase asking this England team who are dominant chasing, to simply go a touch quicker than 6 an over. We got there with 32 balls to spare, even with Root and Hales ****ing about for 13.2 overs of the game going sub 80 SR.
Anyway onwards and upwards, time to complete the 5-0.
This is how I felt about our ODI against England last summer, when we got blasted off the park in the Mount Maunganui ODI (when we had 3 run outs etc). We plodded along to 220 or whatever it was, and getting that was only because Santner all of a sudden decided to become a hero. Guptill played a meek innings of 50 off 80 odd or near on, when it was blindingly obvious on a flat pitch we should go hard or go home.
Sometimes I wonder how much of it is selfishly driven, that guys don't want to go hard when they're set on 60-70 odd because they know if they get to 100 off even amount of balls, they'll be lauded even if it is detrimental to the chances of their side. I know they'd say 'we have to give ourselves a chance' but when a side has just scored 480 FFS you know 300 isn't enough because they're on form and your bowling attack is rank.
Australian sides of the past would absolutely have stepped on Root and pushed to high 300s. But in this Australian side there's a developing culture of the first priority being hanging on to your place in the side. Not one guy in the XI this morning is a bolted-on certainty to be picked series to series and it's showing.
Groundking
International Debutant
It's not even like Root is a bad bowler in ODI's, but ffs if you're wanting to win if you're thinking up of an ideal scenario to go ham on us, it's one where you've got 2 batsmen set without loss of wickets with Root bowling as apposed to any of the other bowlers.
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
I did think Finch was excessively cautious early but I think this game showed more a lack of confidence than selfishness. The top order knows they don't bat deep, they know they've got Agar, Carey Paine at 567.
The fact is that this Australia team is massively outgunned by England here. Even at full strength Australia would be underdogs.
From an English perspective this kind of game showed the kind of problem they may have in the WC. A full strength Aus may have got 350 and in a high pressure game even with England's batting you're going to struggle to get that. Bowling Root 10 today was fine but against a team that had more in the middle order 225-1 off 39 becomes 350 (and they'd have gone harder earlier). Would have been nice to see a Saq Mahmood (skiddy pace) or similar in this game instead of Coverton (more of the same, right arm medium fast), but obviously he spends most of his time injured. Least Wood did a reasonable job today.
The fact is that this Australia team is massively outgunned by England here. Even at full strength Australia would be underdogs.
From an English perspective this kind of game showed the kind of problem they may have in the WC. A full strength Aus may have got 350 and in a high pressure game even with England's batting you're going to struggle to get that. Bowling Root 10 today was fine but against a team that had more in the middle order 225-1 off 39 becomes 350 (and they'd have gone harder earlier). Would have been nice to see a Saq Mahmood (skiddy pace) or similar in this game instead of Coverton (more of the same, right arm medium fast), but obviously he spends most of his time injured. Least Wood did a reasonable job today.
aussie tragic
International Captain
He wasn't dropped, he had a shoulder injury.
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
I hate teams that are peaking. They got that chip on their shoulders that I want to kick so badly.
Or maybe I can let lose Shri's rooster (refer to ' What are you thinking' thread) on them.
Or maybe I can let lose Shri's rooster (refer to ' What are you thinking' thread) on them.
Cow
Banned
Mrs Piggy didn't come home last night.
Absolutely. I didn't watch the game so I'm treading a fine line analysing it but seems to me Finch and Marsh might've prioritised spot-solidifying 100s over putting their side in a winnable position. Especially Finch who got out the ball after he reached 100.
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
This is effing ridiculous! A farce
stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Maxwell injured and we play Carey and Paine together. Yikes. Finch and Marsh were between a rock and a hard place. Go too hard and get out early we collapse to 135 ao. Go at this pace and make big scores and they're criticised for batting too slowly.
I agree that Root should have been punched out of the ground (though we're missing they bloke who would do that) but that middle order is the least inspiring middle order in Australian ODI cricket since the days of AB.
The main difference between the sides is that the English form bats have a licence to hit out because they have depth. The Australian to order can't because we have two keepers and a bowling all rounder in 5-6-7.
310 is not enough but it is defensible. Our bowling has to take some of the flack for the loss here. We went with 5 bowlers and couldn't defend a low but defensible target.
And FFS how terrible is it that 310 is seen as a low score. What a two-hour state for the game to be in. 300+ should be the exception, not the rule.
I agree that Root should have been punched out of the ground (though we're missing they bloke who would do that) but that middle order is the least inspiring middle order in Australian ODI cricket since the days of AB.
The main difference between the sides is that the English form bats have a licence to hit out because they have depth. The Australian to order can't because we have two keepers and a bowling all rounder in 5-6-7.
310 is not enough but it is defensible. Our bowling has to take some of the flack for the loss here. We went with 5 bowlers and couldn't defend a low but defensible target.
And FFS how terrible is it that 310 is seen as a low score. What a two-hour state for the game to be in. 300+ should be the exception, not the rule.
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
Hey don't placate us cows