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***Official*** Australia in England 2018
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Mr Miyagi
Banned
Well if nothing else, England over the past couple of years has transformed their odi team into something that is exciting to watch and follow.
Not just a key player or two, but the whole team, even passengers like Willey, with their plans and implementation thereof.
It is just so meticulous. Right down to the squeezing in of Joe Root overs when Hales replaces Stokes just to give the captain more options (and ability not to bowl out Willey).
stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
So you think the guy who scored 51 off 50 was more of a problem in a 128 chase than the guys who scored 3 (8), 10 (13) or 7 (8)? Smith played anchor all season and managed to be 4th on the list of run scorers. Struck at an acceptable 121 as well. Sure, that's not world on fire type stuff but averaging 40@120 is going to win more games than it loses.
But it is funny that you bring up that IPL, since the other guy that Australia is missing happens to have scored the most runs that year, by a long way and did so averaging 60@140.
A bit part of Australia's struggles in the recent summer was that Smith wasn't making the big scores in the anchor role that he normally plays, he was getting out cheaply which was putting too much pressure on the faster scorers down the order to play for their wickets.
Smith and Warner missing are massive negatives for Australia at the moment. A full strength ODI side looks way better with them in it.
This summer's post-ashes series they didn't score runs and that was the primary reason we lost the series so badly. They were worn down by the massive amount of runs they had already scored that summer.
Cow
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He's a relic.
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Groundking
International Debutant
We won't win the world cup as we're a strike bowler short, and we're likely to choke in the knockout phase and not score enough runs.
S.Kennedy
International Vice-Captain
You can call me the world's worst cricket fan but using your logic Twenty20 and the (upcoming) Hundred would be considered cricket also and I'd rather watch tiddlywinks than those two.
srbhkshk
International Captain
England go in with a high risk - high reward strategy, and they have the tools to pull it of. But by nature it's something that works better over a number of matches rather than a knock-out tournament.
I can for instance easily see India / SA and possibly Pakistan / Australia / NZ winning against them on an above average day. When Australia were winning their 3 consecutive WCs it was hard to actually think of a team that could win over them.
I can for instance easily see India / SA and possibly Pakistan / Australia / NZ winning against them on an above average day. When Australia were winning their 3 consecutive WCs it was hard to actually think of a team that could win over them.
Mr Miyagi
Banned
Oh Warner is brilliant in the IPL, magnificent in fact.
But yes, 51(50) and going slower than Rahane is a problem. Smith let the RRR get past 11.5, for chasing a score of 129.
A SR of only 120 is T20 can often be a problem if the wickets are flat.
Look if you think it is all sorted when the guys are back from their bans, I'm not here to persuade you differently. But Australia were thrashed with them in 2017/18, Aus were thrashed in India, thrashed in Australia and England even did Aus over in the Champs Trophy. Just look at some of the scorecards:
3rd ODI (D/N), Australia tour of India at Indore, Sep 24 2017 | Match Summary | ESPNCricinfo
10th Match Group A, ICC Champions Trophy at Birmingham, Jun 10 2017 | Match Summary | ESPNCricinfo
3rd ODI (D/N), England tour of Australia and New Zealand at Sydney, Jan 21 2018 | Match Summary | ESPNCricinfo
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stephen
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There is a reason Australia are low in the ODI ratings at the moment. But 6th does not represent how Australia will likely perform in the world cup. Similarly, England have a bunch of guys in form at the moment. Who is to say that they will maintain their form into next year?
England are rightly the number one ranked side in ODI cricket at the moment but their style of play is not suited to win tournaments.
England are favourites a year out but form can desert a team at any point. Australia also treat the 4 years between world cups as one extended audition. So Australia tend to under perform a year or two out from the World Cup.
My point is that this series is not at all a preview of how Australia will perform in a year for many reasons. You can't write off the country that has won 4 out of the last 5 tournaments. Nor can anyone think England is a sure bet this far out.
What if England is only performing well due to a purple patch for half of their batting lineup? What if the bowlers start showing up in the next twelve months? What if there is a big rain season in the UK and the pitches slow down and become harder to bat on? What if England face Pakistan in a semi final and Pakistan happen to be "on" that day?
This series is the definition of a JAMODI series. There is no context around it. Australia is missing half of its best XI. And this far out from the World Cup both teams are using it as a practice session.
England are rightly the number one ranked side in ODI cricket at the moment but their style of play is not suited to win tournaments.
England are favourites a year out but form can desert a team at any point. Australia also treat the 4 years between world cups as one extended audition. So Australia tend to under perform a year or two out from the World Cup.
My point is that this series is not at all a preview of how Australia will perform in a year for many reasons. You can't write off the country that has won 4 out of the last 5 tournaments. Nor can anyone think England is a sure bet this far out.
What if England is only performing well due to a purple patch for half of their batting lineup? What if the bowlers start showing up in the next twelve months? What if there is a big rain season in the UK and the pitches slow down and become harder to bat on? What if England face Pakistan in a semi final and Pakistan happen to be "on" that day?
This series is the definition of a JAMODI series. There is no context around it. Australia is missing half of its best XI. And this far out from the World Cup both teams are using it as a practice session.
GoodAreasShane
Cricketer Of The Year
We could have won that Sydney ODI if not for Smith copping one of the worst umpiring calls I have ever seen. No way in hell that ball actually carried, dismal decision.