***Official*** Australia in England 2018

[S.Kennedy]

I am perhaps kicking my own country in the bollocks here but why do you Aussies care? You have the Ashes. Six billion ODI wins does not equate one paltry run in an Ashes test. These truly are the most pointless cricket matches, a mark of which is that I am watching the FIFA World Cup (a sport I usually don't like) instead.

 

[cnerd123]

I am perhaps kicking my own country in the bollocks here but why do you Aussies care? You have the Ashes. Six billion ODI wins does not equate one paltry run in an Ashes test. These truly are the most pointless cricket matches, a mark of which is that I am watching the FIFA World Cup (a sport I usually don't like) instead.

I'm such a diehard cricket fan I am choosing to not watch the cricket to prove it

 

[NUFAN]

I am perhaps kicking my own country in the bollocks here but why do you Aussies care? You have the Ashes. Six billion ODI wins does not equate one paltry run in an Ashes test. These truly are the most pointless cricket matches, a mark of which is that I am watching the FIFA World Cup (a sport I usually don't like) instead.

Not too many people care that much about this series but obviously we'd rather win than lose.

Honestly last night my care factor for sport at around 8pm last night in order was: 1. Australia vs France (football), 2. Broncos vs Sharks (league), 3. Australia vs Ireland (Rugby) and in fourth place this second ODI.

With 6 of our best players unavailable this series it is just helping us work out for the most part who shouldn't be part of our best XI. You look at Short, Stoinis, Maxwell, Agar, Head all in the same XI - you'd think a maximum of 3 (with MMarsh added to that group) would actually make a World Cup XI.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Why did it have to be Smarsh that makes runs? **** me.

And the sooner Paine just goes away and Carey comes in full time, the better.

I am perhaps kicking my own country in the bollocks here but why do you Aussies care? You have the Ashes. Six billion ODI wins does not equate one paltry run in an Ashes test. These truly are the most pointless cricket matches, a mark of which is that I am watching the FIFA World Cup (a sport I usually don't like) instead.

We don't but cricket is cricket and it's still fun to whinge about.

On the plus side though they at least got team balance right this game

 

[Spikey]

agar making runs is annoying because his role shouldn't exist. it's a bit like the james faulkner issue from years ago. you shouldn't be picking your number 7/8 (ie a bowler you should be banking 10 overs out of) based on their batting. we haven't lost games because of his batting, but we don't gain much out of it either


finch
short
marsh
head
stonis
maxwell
paine
nesser
tye
richardson
richardson

the bowlers basically get bowled out no matter what and short, head, stonis, maxwell cobble together 10 overs.

 

[Borges]

Agar was one of the better Australian bowlers yesterday.

Why isn't Lyon getting picked?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Agar's bowling has been pretty decent though, when I've seen him bowl. I didn't see this game but it's not like his figures are that bad. He was actually the most economical of the Aus bowlers.

I do think his bowling role could be filled by a combination of Maxwell and Short (even Head) though, without much loss.

 

[Black_Warrior]

People blaming Paine and the current team, your full strength featuring the cheats got hammered 1-4 at home not too long ago.

 

[Adders]

agar making runs is annoying because his role shouldn't exist. it's a bit like the james faulkner issue from years ago. you shouldn't be picking your number 7/8 (ie a bowler you should be banking 10 overs out of) based on their batting. we haven't lost games because of his batting, but we don't gain much out of it either

Not sure I agree with this......that is exactly England's approach to the team makeup and it seems to be working OK for them atm.

Time will tell if it will win Eng a home WC, but it seems to me they are content to field a **** bowling attack so long as the batting lineup can pile on enough runs to win most games.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Not sure I agree with this......that is exactly England's approach to the team makeup and it seems to be working OK for them atm.

Time will tell if it will win Eng a home WC, but it seems to me they are content to field a **** bowling attack so long as the batting lineup can pile on enough runs to win most games.

Australia at the last world cup had Haddin at 8, with Watson, Maxwell, Faulkner interplaying with just 3 full-time bowlers of which Johnson was a very useful 9.

2nd Semi-Final (D/N), ICC Cricket World Cup at Sydney, Mar 26 2015 | Match Summary | ESPNCricinfo

But since Faulkner has lot his way, Watson's retirement, Maxwell's hot and cold form, Australian ODI cricket has fallen back from where it was.

I don't think Mark Waugh (when he was) and the rest of the selectors are really choosing teams, but rather wanting to look at how players perform. It all just seems ad hoc all the time of late.

 

[TheJediBrah]

People blaming Paine and the current team, your full strength featuring the cheats got hammered 1-4 at home not too long ago.

Yeah it sure is stupid of people to think that having their 5 or 6 best players unavailable would affect results.

How often do you think before you post?

 

[Borges]

People blaming Paine and the current team, your full strength featuring the cheats got hammered 1-4 at home not too long ago.

That full strength team would have put up more of a fight. Don't think they would have had realistic chances of winning an ODI series against England, either at home or away.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

People blaming Paine and the current team, your full strength featuring the cheats got hammered 1-4 at home not too long ago.

Paine was part of that hammering. And he had sr issues then too in my opinion. Even Steve Smith did.

Australia will slip to 6th in ODI after this series after 1 more loss.

Did it even get that bad before Punter was sacked as captain?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Paine never should have been selected for Limited overs in the first place.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Paine never should have been selected for Limited overs in the first place.

Yeah - he is an odd selection with Carey around, and then to make him captain as well pushes it to past peculiar in my opinion.

He's got to increase his SR somehow.

 

[Black_Warrior]

That full strength team would have put up more of a fight. Don't think they would have had realistic chances of winning an ODI series against England, either at home or away.

They scored 300 today with a fighting knock from S Marsh. What more fight do you want? Pick the 4 defeats earlier this year and tell me how that side 'fought' more than this.

 

[TheJediBrah]

They scored 300 today with a fighting knock from S Marsh. What more fight do you want? Pick the 4 defeats earlier this year and tell me how that side 'fought' more than this.

They were coming off a massive 4-0 Ashes victory. They were checked out. They weren't going to fight ****.

 

[Black_Warrior]

oh of course. How convenient.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

They scored 300 today with a fighting knock from S Marsh. What more fight do you want? Pick the 4 defeats earlier this year and tell me how that side 'fought' more than this.

I don't even think that is the issue. Noone would suggest an Australian cricket team is not putting up a fight when they lose. It is their approach and the selections that is confusing. Look at those losses, England is without Stokes, and as had to replace him with Hales, which weakens the bowling. So they get overs out of Root to still spare Willey from the death. They keep batting the same way.

They're now without Morgan and Woakes, so Willey is at 8 instead of 9, and yet they still find a way to consistently score more and faster than Australia -whether Australia has its test bowlers or not. Australia has a batting SR problem against England on flat pitches. India knocked them off the same way.

The depth of the Aussie seam attack for ODI is massively impressive, Starc, Cummins, Haze, Tye, NCN, Stanlake J Richardson (that's all ahead of Richardson and Pattinson should he ever get fit again) - they have more than anyone else after the SA retirements of Abbott and Morkel. But they need quicker runs with the bat and more of them.

Even M Marsh, who is a big guy and a clean striker of the ball, was found out to be slow as against England batsmen facing better bowlers on the flat pitches in Australia.

 

[TheJediBrah]

oh of course. How convenient.

what point are you trying to make? You're just posting **** right now