Baggy Green ball tampering: Bancroft, Smith and the Aussie "Leadership Group"

[Burner]

Steve Smith's world might be collapsing around him. Not in a million years would I have thought that he would step down as Aus captain this series or even in the foreseeable future.

 

[Spark]

Why is Henry Blofeld still a thing

 

[flibbertyjibber]

its absolutely nothing like match fixing you stupid old ****

Agree with this. Though it is clear it wasn't the first time they had done this and nobody believes them, not really sure you can punish them much more even if you think they should be. All down to own nations authorities now.

 

[ImpatientLime]

Why is Henry Blofeld still a thing

lovable eccentric, posh old englishman etc etc

the kind whos ancestors subjugated the masses

 

[Victor Ian]

Is this thread the quickest to 500 posts? Some strike rate going on here!

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Why is Henry Blofeld still a thing

He isn't apart from being wheeled out to chat to Piers Moron occasionally on Good Morning Britain. So glad he has retired now.

 

[Spark]

lovable eccentric, posh old englishman

the kind whos ancestors subjugated the masses

I assume he believed that reverse swing was clearly cheating when it first appeared in the 80s and 90s

 

[SeamUp]

To be fair it is so ludicrous and I believe he means it, that we can just all laugh at it.

 

[ImpatientLime]

Agree with this. Though it is clear it wasn't the first time they had done this and nobody believes them, not really sure you can punish them much more even if you think they should be. All down to own nations authorities now.

i mean they're worlds apart, comparisons are moronic.

the minute you begin to curb your own performance in order to meet the needs of the fix, it is no longer a sport.

never mind the criminal elements involved and dodgy money passing hands.

 

[Spark]

To be fair it is so ludicrous and I believe he means it, that we can just all laugh at it.

I just strongly dislike being reminded of his existence, tbf.

 

[Spark]

i mean they're worlds apart, comparisons are moronic.

the minute you begin to curb your own performance in order to meet the needs of the fix, it is no longer a sport.

never mind the criminal elements involved and dodgy money passing hands.

This is the main point for me, which separates it massively from everything else. There is a reason every time major bodies talk about threats to sport generally, match and spot fixing is always #1 because it opens up sport to being influenced and targeted by organised crime.

Okay, "a few no balls for money" may not seem bad at first, but before long it will be "a few no balls for less money, and if you don't then you won't like the consequences".

 

[flibbertyjibber]

I just strongly dislike being reminded of his existence, tbf.

Many of us do my dear old thing.

 

[ankitj]

This is Australia's moment of truth - ESPNcricinfo

Where Sambit Bal argues this is about much more than just ball tampering.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Burgey's favourite cricketer chipping in with his 2 cents

 

[ImpatientLime]

awwww yeah, the poor persecuted indian team and bcci

 

[Victor Ian]

I'm really happy about the lax ICC punishments now that the result is that they trolled the Weed.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Gotta love the moral outrage steeped in nationalism. He conveniently leaves out the part where BCCI bullied the ICC and CSA in 2001 which led to the third test being 'unofficial' and the end of Mike Denness' career, and of course all that is nothing compared to 'Monkeygate 2007'

 

[SeamUp]

Burgey's favourite cricketer chipping in with his 2 cents

Man oh man.

 

[Bolo]

De Kock vs Warner in ICC charges this series

De Kock-
1) A personal attack on Warner in response to a personal attack on himself. Almost certainly only charged because Warner physically escalated on camera later.

1 incident, one charge.

Warner-
1 An unsolicited personal attack on De Kock.
2 An attempted physical attack on De Kock.
3 Implicated in cheating by his own captain.

3 incidents, of a much more serious nature than De Kock's, one charge. Also in a leadership position during this time.

I reckon complaints about ICC favouritism are overstated, and it's better to avoid banning players if we can, but Warner is getting away with a lot, particularly considering his chequered history.

 

[shifty_eyes]

Burgey's favourite cricketer chipping in with his 2 cents

He is being obnoxious weed as always