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Australian Domestic Season 2017/18

brockley

International Captain
I forgot Avendano and Lenton.
I guess Uppal would fill the allrounder spot now.Now they picked him time to give him a go with bat and ball.

Doran and Bird would be 2 good pick ups.
And since Forrest come back too,and a bit of experience.
Admit it will be hard to settle on a list.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
A late-season Forrest recall after Larkin/Gibson/Sangha/whoever fail to set the world alight would be all sorts of hilarious tbh. Especially if they make him open.
 

Spikey

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Forrest is more likely to take over Jaques' role than contribute in any playing way

This is the one off-season where I don't want NSW to look at outside talent, because they need to get their own **** in order. They don't know what they have, there's plenty of names that have barely been given a chance or have recently impressed for the U19's.

I've barely posted because I've barely watched NSW post BBL, but one thing that was really annoying was the contrast between the selection of the batsmen and the selection of the bowlers. I know I know, it's easier to drop bowlers after one game than it is batsmen, but Copeland, Lyon, Sandhu, Stobo, Edwards, Somerville, Fallins, Conway, SOK, Uppal & Abbott all got games in the space of four matches, with only Copeland playing more than two of them. Meanwhile there was only one change to the batting order, when Mad Dog got a game (a curious selection, if they've already ditch him) in place of a bowler
 
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Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah the constant bowling rotation made little sense to me. It's like an ICC save where you've got two guns and 4-5 guys who aren't quite good enough but are all roughly equal battling it out for the third spot, so you constantly rotate until one has a little bit of success, and then swap again after they have two bad games. Absolutely bizarre.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
1. Hughes
2. ??? (Larkin; Solway if they do a Henry on Larkin?)
3. Patterson
4. ??? (Sangha?)
5. Henriques
6. Nevill
7. Copeland
8. O'Keefe
9. Somerville
10. Abbott/Sandhu/Stobo/Conway/Thornton/Edwards/Hatcher/Dwarshuis
11. Abbott/Sandhu/Stobo/Conway/Thornton/Edwards/Hatcher/Dwarshuis

12. #Bertmentum (if they don't do the NSW Millions of Bowlers thing he bats 6, everyone else slides down and Somerville is out)

No idea who captains. Copeland must be due for a season at this point.
 

Gnske

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Does NSW really need or want Larkin that badly.

Just get some new blood in that batting order, recent U19 players, dudes pilfering grade, anyone. NSW have been so unchanged relatively in recent years compared to other states. That might be a BS assertion but it sure feels like the only other two bats in NSW until Uppal got his debut were Larkin and then Gibson would occasionally show up to remind everyone he existed.
 

Spikey

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No that's correct. Top 7 batsmen for NSW in the past two seasons would be:

Smith
Warner

(Aus guys)

Hughes
Cowan
Larkin
Carters
Mad Dog

(openers. least we forget Mad Dog's inexplicable return to opening)

Henriques
Patterson
Rohrer
Nevill

(middle order)

Copeland
SOK
Gibson
Nair
Uppal

Jay Lenton (who I think may have batted 8)
(number 7's)

Debuts in bold.

So you've actually got two spots created in Rohrer and Carters retiring and they've been filled by Larkin and Hughes really.
 

Burgey

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Burgey will call for #Bertmentum all he likes, but he'll never displace the #SuperNev

I'm all for him as a specialist bat though -- especially if Mad Dog goes, there's two spots available (well, only one if they go full NSW and pick 5 bowlers + Moises)
Bert first played Futures as a specialist batsman then Ctricket NSW told him they would pick him as a keeper/ batsman. it hasn't really done his form any harm, but there's no reason he couldn't play as a specialist batsman anyway.

As has been noted, there are plenty of blokes scoring decent runs in grade, and if they're not going to promote them once they've been doing it for 2-3 seasons, you can't blame blokes if they look elsewhere to get a Shield gig.
 

Burgey

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Mind you, I wouldn't be surprised if SAB and Bert both get a game in the last Shield round, if for no other reason than to royally **** Parra over in the first grade quarter final on the weekend.
 

Spikey

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The New South Wales Blues have made one change to the 13-man squad that narrowly lost to Victoria last week for its final match of the JLT Sheffield Shield season against ladder leaders Queensland at North Dalton Park in Wollongong, starting on Wednesday.

Blues off-spinner Will Somerville returns to the squad for the final fixture following the retirement of former Australian opening batsman Ed Cowan.

bloody hell
 

NUFAN

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Did you know there are only 3 batsman who have scored over 400 runs and averaged 40 in both the 2016/17 season and 2017/18 seasons.

Marcus Harris 808 @ 42.52 & 681 @ 45.40
Jo Burns 724 @ 40.22 & 514 @ 57.11
Travis Head 645 @ 43 & 660 @ 47.14

Probably surprising to some is that Aaron Finch is almost there (581 @ 52.82 & 479 @ 39.91).
 

vic_orthdox

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This has been the issue for some time though, really. People aren't putting together good consecutive seasons - they come onto the scene and then go backwards.
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Bowlers with 20 wickets at under 30 for both 2016/17 and the current season:

Tremain 42 wkts @ 18.97 & 43 @ 21.65
Boland 29 @ 27.62 & 36 @ 25.61
Feldman 23 @ 23.21 & 33 @ 20.03
 

Top_Cat

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I blame the rise of T20 cricket.

But seriously maybe it is this time. Back in the Law/Lehmann/Cox 90s, you had to be consistent not just to be within screaming distance of the Test side but to get a fat County contract whereas now that's not an issue. Has anyone heard of players openly prioritising getting white-ball contracts over red-ball?
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I'm more surprised about the bowlers tbh. The batsmen have all been adjusting too they duke ball over the last couple of seasons.
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
The bowlers who just missed out were:

Worrall 26 @ 27.76 and 28 @ 30.67
Mennie 27 @ 20.74 and 28 @ 32.03
Wildermuth 20 @ 31.35 and 24 @ 22.95
Bird 18 @ 26.05 and 32 @ 19.40
 

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