***Official*** Trans-Tasman Twenty20 Tri-Series

[Moss]

New Zealand advance but that was ****ing pathetic at the end there by Chapman. They deserve to get blown out by Australia now.

Look to be fair Chapman did put NZ back on track by being the only guy to get after the spinners. Needs to work on his game no doubt.

Do agree the way NZ are playing would be a major surprise if Australia lose to them in the final.

 

[_Ed_]

Fantastic last couple of overs by England, but it's pretty disappointing to fall short with so many wickets in hand.

 

[robbypark]

Fantastic last couple of overs by England, but it's pretty disappointing to fall short with so many wickets in hand.

That's the thing. They had no reason to not swing for the fences on every ball. If they give up a wicket, it would have been meaningless and would have just allowed Seifert to come in anyway. No matter how you look at it, that was a pathetic attempt by those two at the death.

 

[straw man]

Would've sent out Seifert and given him the opportunity to hunt down 195. The initial target was all but achieved.

I don't know whether it was them being very conservative in sending out a senior player to make absolute sure 175 was reached, or that they're still deluded thinking that Taylor can be a finisher. De Grandhomme and Seifert far more likely to hit early boundaries than Taylor.

Very good yorkers to Chapman though yes it was a (partial) failure from him there to finish off. Yorker going across him seems the perfect delivery to him - England worked that out quickly. Despite very good bowling, he should've at least taken a single from those rather than the three(ish) dots he faced - that would've been the difference. Otherwise he looks excellent though.

 

[Burgey]

How do you finish only four down and come up short? That’s pathetic

 

[TheJediBrah]

How do you finish only four down and come up short? That’s pathetic

Taking a leaf out of the Melbourne Renegades' Finals playbook

next step: Select a specialist bowler and then don't give them a bowl

 

[Prince EWS]

Yorker going across him seems the perfect delivery to him - England worked that out quickly.

I think it was kind of by accident. That's basically just what Jordan tries to bowl to left handers regardless, especially at the death.

 

[marc71178]

At what point do they realise that Willey is total garbage?

 

[SteveNZ]

I mean Chapman had two free hits and didn't even take a swing at either one. I understand they were decent yorkers but you gotta at least take a ****ing swing at those.

Terrible.

Unless he's made a pre-emptive move to scoop a yorker, it's bloody near impossible to 'swing' at a yorker. You swing at it, 99.9 times out of 100 you're going to mistime it, miss it etc. Sometimes the bowler wins. Yeah, maybe he could've got off strike. But that's not your headspace on a free hit

I don't know this for a fact but I believe Chapman did exactly what he was told to do. He was at the crease when they passed 175, which was undoubtedly the goal. Yeah they would've liked to won too but his job was to score quickly enough and not get out so 175 was achieved comfortably, and it was. Who else was prepared to break up Dawson's length? To come in and do that, and swat a guy away who'd gone for 9 off 3 showed his mettle and ability.

I'm a sycophant because I rate the guy incredibly highly so take whatever I say with a grain of salt...but he's all class, Chapman. What a tremendous amount of egg on Larsen and co's stubborn face that they refused to pick this guy initially who was by far the best option, then tried to justify it with some BS bowling excuse. He's come in and from ball one has looked like he belonged, because he's played international cricket before and they picked him in form - unlike Anaru who hasn't and wasn't.

Yeah ideally he would've got us over the line, he's young. I'm just excited that this guy could play LOs for us for the next 10-12 years. He's a gun.

 

[Daemon]

Hopefully they don't find out he can't play the short ball

 

[Prince EWS]

Hopefully they don't find out he can't play the short ball

He got bowled against Australia via his helmet landing on the stumps. I'm sure they'll explore that further.

 

[quincywagstaff]

From what I saw of the closing stages of the match, NZ were just focussed on getting the runs target to reach the final and once they did that, they just seemed to mentally switch off and weren't that fussed about losing the match.

Foxtel ratings were very strong for this match - 105k and easily the most popular Pay-TV show of the night.

Wonder if this will make CA more comfortable with staging T20/ODI matches not involving Australia during the Oz summer like they used to as there would be a pay-TV audience for it.

 

[straw man]

One more thing on my current obsession with Taylor batting 5 at T20s - there were a couple of times last night where a quick running pair would've pushed for a second run to the outfielder, but Taylor wasn't up for it even if Chapman was. It really helps at that stage of the innings to have batsmen who are willing to take a risk, can scamper and put pressure on the field. I love Taylor dearly but he's not going to do that these days.

So I'm still of the mind that we pick one of Williamson or Taylor to bat at 3 in T20 and the other sits out. Make an exception and play both if the wicket isn't a road, perhaps it's the subcontinent and they prepare a turner, but that's a rarity. On roads, need more firepower.

 

[Flem274*]

He got bowled against Australia via his helmet landing on the stumps. I'm sure they'll explore that further.

yeah he's clearly the third best t20 batsman in the country by a fair margin but he won't get away with being as bad as he is against bouncers for very long, even with the protection of the format.

if he sorts it out properly he'll be a player for all 3 formats.

 

[straw man]

Don't think we'll see Wheeler again any time soon, though meant to mention that, as he's often been described as the left-arm Matt Henry, it's no great surprise he's not a success in T20s. He wouldn't be at the death in ODIs either. Likes bowling back of a length in limited-overs cricket to get awkward bounce, a little swing and seam and can be a challenging new ball bowler as a result. He probably has success with that back-of-a-length tactic domestically even in T20s (though his numbers aren't great), particularly now he bowls high 130s instead of low. However it's not a goer on super-flat wickets against the best biffers in the world. You just cannot bowl predictable seam-up balls on a good length or back of a length. That got murdered so he tried to fall back on other options.

Like Henry, he has no good slower ball let alone several variations of it. I wonder if that front-on action makes it harder for him to master slower deliveries. Whatever the reason, both he and Henry are really lacking there.

He can bowl a good yorker, but this also wasn't the first time he repeatedly failed to land it anywhere near on target. There were two consecutive NZ matches he played a while ago where he tried to bowl wide yorkers, kept missing and conceded a load of wides. He's just not very accurate with those and that's before even considering the mental side of bowling in those situations.

Back to being reserve left arm swing bowler in case Boult misses a test, I'm afraid.

 

[Zinzan]

I'm assuming KW's 72 off 46 balls against England will secure his spot in the T20 side for at least the next 10 mtaches even if he now reverts back to his 7 off 13, and 9 off 16 type innings.

I genuinely thought he might have turned the corner in terms of his intent and approach after that 1st England game (following the comments from Doull during the week), but no, it appears he's back to this idea that 7 off 13 in a T20 game when you're chasing 10 an over is somehow acceptable, because he's Kane "indispensable" Williamson.

Just to put into context, his last 6 innings have been;

0 off 1
9 off 14 (when chasing 181)
8 off 21 (batting first)
72 off 46 (batting first)
1 off 2 (when the team score was 246) &
8 off 13 (when chasing 195).

In summary, even including his one good innings vs. England, he's averaged 16 with a SR of 101 in his last 6 matches.

Would any other T20I no.3 in the world be permitted to get away with such dire numbers? Especially when you consider they've generally been high-scoring games he's been involved in.

Seems Doull might need to do NZ cricket a favour and publicly question his inclusion again, as it seems the only way that he'll actually bat with intent.

 

[Gnske]

boooooo KW too slow where are my wallops *sips tui*

He's done very little wrong, an error of judgement here or there.

 

[Prince EWS]

yeah he's clearly the third best t20 batsman in the country by a fair margin

Haha I don't think this is true, and even if it is it's definitely not 'clear'. I think de Grandhomme, Williamson and Taylor all have some sort of claim on that; it's hard to split them (and Chapman himself). I'm definitely happy for him to be selected but lets not get ahead of ourselves (I'm assuming the openers are undisputed #1 and #2?).

 

[Prince EWS]

boooooo KW too slow where are my wallops *sips tui*

He's done very little wrong, an error of judgement here or there.

I usually wouldn't read too much into the Williamson thing but man that 8(21) was a truly awful innings. I think it'll stick with me for a long time for its outright badness. The fact that he has that in him is a concern -- not in a "lets drop him" way, but at least in a "he needs to address that in some form" way.

 

[Zinzan]

boooooo KW too slow where are my wallops *sips tui*

He's done very little wrong, an error of judgement here or there.

Numbers are numbers, a first drop averaging 16 @ 101 (when being involved in 180 average score games) is 'wrong' to use your word.