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Stokes Arrested

Spikey

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almost seems a shame we didn't get to enjoy stokes being sledged all summer while his team got thumped
 

oblongballs

U19 Debutant
Affray is probably the least he could have been charged with. It is a very lenient look on a serious assault. I guess he'll get a fine, some community service talking to kids etc etc
 

StephenZA

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The fact that they all got charged with affray is telling.... they all had some culpability it appears and probably this is what serves justice the best. It will be interesting to see if Stokes actually fights this, I get the feeling it's one of those 'I was in the right (or so he thinks)' but he broke the law and nothing changes that.
 

S.Kennedy

International Vice-Captain
I am not really sure I understand the ECB's thinking here. So,

Stokes is being investigated = he cannot play

Stokes is being charged with affray = he can play.
 

FBU

International Debutant
Ben Stokes allowed to resume cricket career as ECB feared being sued for restraint of trade

How come he didn't play in the Ashes then?
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
I am not really sure I understand the ECB's thinking here. So,

Stokes is being investigated = he cannot play

Stokes is being charged with affray = he can play.
Suspect it's more a case of Stokes potentially being charged with GBH (or worse) = cannot play
Stokes charged with a relatively minor offence = he can play.

Not sure where FBU thinks restraint of trade comes into it though - clearly the ECB can argue that him not playing was to protect legitimate business interests (such as the loss of sponsors if they continue to select him).
 

FBU

International Debutant
Suspect it's more a case of Stokes potentially being charged with GBH (or worse) = cannot play
Stokes charged with a relatively minor offence = he can play.

Not sure where FBU thinks restraint of trade comes into it though - clearly the ECB can argue that him not playing was to protect legitimate business interests (such as the loss of sponsors if they continue to select him).
Ben Stokes allowed to resume cricket career as ECB feared being sued for restraint of trade
 

S.Kennedy

International Vice-Captain
When they suspended him I do not think the ECB felt it would take as long. I do not believe anyone felt it would take so long! They probably thought he'd miss what remained of the W. Indies one-dayers, the Ashes warm-ups and the first Ashes test, and that would act as a sort of punishment. They couldn't very well rescind his suspension because the police are lazy as they had to be seen publicly as acting like they were decisive and knew what they were doing (which they didn't).
 

FBU

International Debutant
The weirdest aspect of all this is how Hales got off with barely a slap on the wrist!!
I think after the late night drinking and fighting there should have been a disciplinary meeting straight after that. It did not matter if he was guilty or innocent of the fight he was still fighting. He could have been banned for 2 Tests. Hales would have got a fine. It might be 18 months before Hales faces his discliplinary meeting.
 

StephenZA

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I think after the late night drinking and fighting there should have been a disciplinary meeting straight after that. It did not matter if he was guilty or innocent of the fight he was still fighting. He could have been banned for 2 Tests. Hales would have got a fine. It might be 18 months before Hales faces his discliplinary meeting.
Can`t do that... anything said in the public like that has no legal protection; thus can be used against him in a court of law. No decent lawyer will allow some arbitrary tribunal before the legal/law side has been completed.
 

S.Kennedy

International Vice-Captain
If you kick someone repeatedly on the ground, you get suspended for two one-dayers. If you square up to someone and punch him to the ground, you get suspended for two one-dayers, a bunch of warm-ups, an entire Ashes series and then charged with affray!
 

fredfertang

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It may be that our extremely learned employment lawyer Mr Z will call into this thread to enlighten us with an expert opinion, but my guess is that the reason for the original suspension is that Stokes central contract permitted that in the circumstances as they then were, and that the reason the suspension is now lifted is because the circumstances as they now are no longer do
 

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