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*Official* Pro-Wrestling Thread II
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Spikey
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It seemed they were doing a parallel with WK9 except Naito didn't cry like Okada did. Based on the last two year's schedule, Okada will defend the belt another 3 times before Dominion, which is enough for the record, and Dominion is hosted in Osaka which is Naito town. That might be the direction
Mike5181
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I'm probably being a bit harsh because I can see what they're trying to do. Unlike with a WWE audience and bookers, they can afford to build on a story for another year without the audience losing interest if the guy is good enough. A full blown babyface stardust press finish next year against a heel Okada might be worth it. We'll see.
Anyway, the match itself was stupidly good.
Anyway, the match itself was stupidly good.
Mike5181
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Yeah, kind of disappointing. It's obvious that Ibushi needs to somehow commit to being a top star in New Japan so they can fill that Shibata sized hole.
Tanahashi looked the worst I've seen him, too. Needs some time off.
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Tbf, Ibushi's 100% challenging for a title tomorrow, it's just whether it's Okada or Tana. The only company he's worked for since the G1 is the one that TAKA Michinoku of Suzuki-gun owns so I think he's just about committed. Given what we know now they should have just had Ibushi challenge Tana at WK, but then the Jay White/Tana story won't be over. It's just a bit weird to start with Jay losing
Agent TBY
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Okay, so I don't know how much of this came across in the English version, but the Japanese stream was clearly pushing a few points:
- The pre-match promo was filled with Naito quotes about how a star doesn't need a belt to shine and focused entirely on just main-eventing in the Dome. Okada's half meanwhile was all about "Great, you've got all the accolades and the fan support, but are you satisfied with just that?"
- Naito's got the fans on his side, but you need more than that to take the IWGP title in the Dome. Okada probably saw his past self in the current Naito, flashing back to when he had all the momentum in the world but still couldn't get the job done against Tanahashi. Naito also emphasised this by constantly playing to the crowd, trying twice to hit the Stardust Press etc.
- Naito's the older guy and the senior in the promotion, but Okada beat him to basically every possible achievement. He then turned around and asked Naito in his post-match promo, "So how'd you like being in the main event in the Dome? It felt amazing, right? Well, it feels even better when you win. Let's do this again sometime," which I think was supposed to come off as super condescending. But the rest of his promo was super babyface, so I don't know lol.
So basically Naito was so obsessed with main-eventing WK and making up for losing the crowd in the past that he lacked the hunger for the top prize. In his mind, this was a replacement for WK8, which is why he played to the crowd and why he wanted to hit the Stardust Press so badly. If he wants to beat Okada, he needs to have the desire and the sheer force of will to win and be champion.
- The pre-match promo was filled with Naito quotes about how a star doesn't need a belt to shine and focused entirely on just main-eventing in the Dome. Okada's half meanwhile was all about "Great, you've got all the accolades and the fan support, but are you satisfied with just that?"
- Naito's got the fans on his side, but you need more than that to take the IWGP title in the Dome. Okada probably saw his past self in the current Naito, flashing back to when he had all the momentum in the world but still couldn't get the job done against Tanahashi. Naito also emphasised this by constantly playing to the crowd, trying twice to hit the Stardust Press etc.
- Naito's the older guy and the senior in the promotion, but Okada beat him to basically every possible achievement. He then turned around and asked Naito in his post-match promo, "So how'd you like being in the main event in the Dome? It felt amazing, right? Well, it feels even better when you win. Let's do this again sometime," which I think was supposed to come off as super condescending. But the rest of his promo was super babyface, so I don't know lol.
So basically Naito was so obsessed with main-eventing WK and making up for losing the crowd in the past that he lacked the hunger for the top prize. In his mind, this was a replacement for WK8, which is why he played to the crowd and why he wanted to hit the Stardust Press so badly. If he wants to beat Okada, he needs to have the desire and the sheer force of will to win and be champion.
dontcloseyoureyes
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It's Osiris from Destiny you plebian.
(Haven't watched the match yet, only the entrances. 7 beers in, I'm pretty drunk).
dontcloseyoureyes
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**** man this match has been wild.
dontcloseyoureyes
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That was a seriously good ****ing match. Like, I thought the stipulation was there to mask the fact that a 47yo Jericho couldn't go with Kenny at his best. But Jericho really put it all on the line, he can still ****ing go. The finishing sequence was amazing. From the WoJ to the OWA on the chair it was like a top tier NJPW match and that is a serious testament to Jericho, really.
dontcloseyoureyes
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I love Okada. I think Naito really should win, but I would love the swerve really. Give Okada another 12 months as champ, he's the living embodiment of a champion.
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Side note: so many Japanese bae's in the crowd 
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Okada in pants is disturbing tstl.
dontcloseyoureyes
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Didn't think they'd actually do it tbh.
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After the G1 I was of the view that Okada would win because ace always wins lol and I managed to get convinced it was time and now I will never not back the ace
this is possible the single biggest difference between njpw and wweSide note: so many Japanese bae's in the crowd
dontcloseyoureyes
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Reddit is hilarious right now. So many salty WWE fans who can't believe Naito didn't win. Calling Okada the new Cena.
Where does Okada drop the title this year, then? Sakura Genesis? Dominion? Not at all? Interesting to see.
Where does Okada drop the title this year, then? Sakura Genesis? Dominion? Not at all? Interesting to see.
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hell Tana was the new Cena after WK9.
I figure he's not dropping the belt before he beats Tana's title defence record (which may be a good time for Tana to actually challenge Okada for the first time since becoming the ace) which probably takes us to Dominion, and I dunno, at that point it kinda feels like you may as well go all the way and have Okada win the G1 as champion. The announcement that the last 3 shows of the G1 is at the Budokan is a big deal too. That was AJPW's and then NOAH's place. NJPW hasn't been there for years and wrestling hasn't been there since Kenta Kobashi's retirement show in 2013. It holds a lot more than Sumo Hall which has been hosting the G1 finals lately. trying to sell out all 3 nights is a big ask
I'm almost more interested in if Omega drops the US belt this year
I imagine tonight will be a big night for Jay White. presumably whatever faction he has going will be revealed tonight, along with a challenge to either Tana or maybe Omega. Assume Suzuki will re-challenge Goto. Ibushi to challenge probably Okada, maybe Tana. Unsure where Naito goes from here
I figure he's not dropping the belt before he beats Tana's title defence record (which may be a good time for Tana to actually challenge Okada for the first time since becoming the ace) which probably takes us to Dominion, and I dunno, at that point it kinda feels like you may as well go all the way and have Okada win the G1 as champion. The announcement that the last 3 shows of the G1 is at the Budokan is a big deal too. That was AJPW's and then NOAH's place. NJPW hasn't been there for years and wrestling hasn't been there since Kenta Kobashi's retirement show in 2013. It holds a lot more than Sumo Hall which has been hosting the G1 finals lately. trying to sell out all 3 nights is a big ask
I'm almost more interested in if Omega drops the US belt this year
I imagine tonight will be a big night for Jay White. presumably whatever faction he has going will be revealed tonight, along with a challenge to either Tana or maybe Omega. Assume Suzuki will re-challenge Goto. Ibushi to challenge probably Okada, maybe Tana. Unsure where Naito goes from here
