Date-Specific ODI Draft

[Himannv]

Daniel Vettori (01.12.2010)

 

[OverratedSanity]

Hasan Ali (23-Nov-17) for a safe 11.8 points

 

[weldone]

Hasan Ali (23-Nov-17) for a safe 11.8 points

Yes but there's an additional -6.7 if he bats at 9, -2.7 if he bats at 10 or -1.3 if he bats at 11.

 

[weldone]

4 people have had 8 picks so far; and the other two 7 picks each

I was trying to see if it's theoretically possible to pick 8 un-selected cricketers at their respective peaks at this stage and end up with more points than the best performer so far. Funnily enough, the answer is yes! That doesn't mean you guys are not playing well. Most of you are doing very well indeed. It's just incredibly tough to pick the correct dates. It also shows that there's still enough chance for the 1-2 of you who are lagging slightly behind to catch up.

 

[Himannv]

I don't know if I'm lagging behind right now in terms of points, but I'm seriously happy with my lineup on paper.

I find it odd that bowlers who can't bat are penalized for this limitation, but batsmen who bowl aren't given much credit. It just seems tough on those who bowl.

 

[weldone]

I don't know if I'm lagging behind right now in terms of points, but I'm seriously happy with my lineup on paper.

I find it odd that bowlers who can't bat are penalized for this limitation, but batsmen who bowl aren't given much credit. It just seems tough on those who bowl.

No comment on the lagging behind part (don't want to reveal things at this stage), but your team is indeed shaping up well on paper.

There are many different types of strategies possible.
1. One can select a batting all-rounder as 5th bowler - if carefully done that's a perfectly viable strategy in this draft.
2. The batting penalty for bowlers who bat at 10 or 11 isn't much - but if bowlers bat at 9 or above it's helpful if they can hold a bat. If Venkatapathy Raju bats at 9 that's not a good sight.
3. But it's not mandatory for no. 9 to be able to bat. In fact, if one has 3 ATG bowlers at 9-11 whose bowling can compensate lack of batting then that's also a viable strategy imo.

 

[Himannv]

There are many different types of strategies possible.
1. One can select a batting all-rounder as 5th bowler - if carefully done that's a perfectly viable strategy in this draft.
2. The batting penalty for bowlers who bat at 10 or 11 isn't much - but if bowlers bat at 9 or above it's helpful if they can hold a bat. If Venkatapathy Raju bats at 9 that's not a good sight.
3. But it's not mandatory for no. 9 to be able to bat. In fact, if one has 3 ATG bowlers at 9-11 whose bowling can compensate lack of batting then that's also a viable strategy imo.

Yeah, I get that. I was just commenting on the lack of consideration for a 6th or 7th option bowler. I think they contribute enough in games for their bowling points to count for something. A formula where a percentage of their points are taken into consideration (like the no 10 and 11) seems fair.

 

[Teuton]

Sourav Ganguly 26 Oct 2000

 

[weldone]

Drafter	Player	Date
Teuton	Viv Richards	18-Oct-86
srbhkshk	Sachin Tendulkar	09-Nov-99
randycricfreak	AB de Villiers	19-Oct-17
AndrewB	Kapil Dev	10-Feb-86
Himanv	Virat Kohli	04-Sep-17
OverratedSanity	MS Dhoni	06-Dec-13
AndrewB	David Warner	06-Jun-17
Himanv	Adam Gilchrist	15-Feb-06
OverratedSanity	Shaun Pollock	15-Feb-07
Teuton	Imran Khan	01-Jan-90
srbhkshk	Hashim Amla	08-Mar-15
randycricfreak	Kumar Sangakkara	12-Mar-15
Himanv	Sanath Jaysuriya	28-Apr-07
OverratedSanity	Dean Jones	17-Dec-90
Teuton	Richard Hadlee	12-Mar-90
srbhkshk	Ricky Ponting	21-Dec-07
randycricfreak	Zaheer Abbas	21-Jun-83
AndrewB	Virender Sehwag	10-Dec-11
srbhkshk	Brian Lara	22-Nov-03
randycricfreak	Shane Bond	15-Apr-07
AndrewB	Joel Garner	10-Jan-87
Himanv	Wasim Akram	02-Nov-97
OverratedSanity	Mitchell Starc	30-Mar-15
Teuton	Muttiah Muralitharan	07-Jun-03
randycricfreak	Curtly Ambrose	28-Feb-93
AndrewB	Andrew Flintoff	19-Sep-04
Himanv	Glenn McGrath	25-Apr-07
OverratedSanity	Rohit Sharma	13-Dec-17
Teuton	Javed Miandad	04-Nov-87
srbhkshk	Quinton de Kock	23-Oct-17
OverratedSanity	Ajantha Mendis	22-Jan-09
Teuton	Waqar Younis	14-Feb-91
srbhkshk	Shahid Afridi	21-Mar-15
randycricfreak	Ian Botham	19-Mar-92
AndrewB	David Gower	21-Jun-83
Himanv	Andrew Symonds	14-Oct-07
OverratedSanity	Shane Watson	06-Nov-09
Teuton	Matthew Hayden	27-Jan-08
srbhkshk	Aravinda de Silva	08-Mar-03
randycricfreak	Michael Holding	03-Dec-85
AndrewB	Lance Klusener	20-Jun-99
Himanv	Michael Bevan	18-Apr-99
randycricfreak	Malcolm Marshall	12-Dec-91
AndrewB	Jos Buttler	10-Oct-16
Himanv	Daniel Vettori	01-Dec-10
OverratedSanity	Hasan Ali	23-Nov-17
Teuton	Sourav Ganguly	26-Oct-00
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srbhkshk		
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AndrewB		
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Himanv		
OverratedSanity		
Teuton		
srbhkshk		
randycricfreak

 

[weldone]

Yeah, I get that. I was just commenting on the lack of consideration for a 6th or 7th option bowler. I think they contribute enough in games for their bowling points to count for something. A formula where a percentage of their points are taken into consideration (like the no 10 and 11) seems fair.

That's not a bad point - but I didn't want to penalize teams for not having a 6th bowling option.

 

[Teuton]

In a draft like this it is possible to have 5 ATG bowlers and hence no need for a 6th option

 

[srbhkshk]

Brett Lee - 13 Sep 2009
Saqlain Mushtaq - 01 Jun 1999

 

[randycricfreak]

20th June 2005 Kevin Pietersen

 

[Himannv]

AndrewB has about 20 minutes left on the clock. However, I'm about to sleep so I'll pick now to ensure that the draft isn't held up for too long.

Shane Warne (23.08.1999)

 

[OverratedSanity]

Saeed Anwar 22-May-1997

 

[Teuton]

Jacques Kallis 4 Dec 2002

 

[AndrewB]

Dennis Lillee 07-Jun-81

 

[Himannv]

Mike Hussey

Will post a date a bit later,

 

[Himannv]

Mike Hussey

Will post a date a bit later,

Mike Hussey (31.10.2009)

 

[Teuton]

Greg Chappell 6 Jun 1977