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***Official*** 1st Test at Brisbane

Jarquis

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Wicket keeping and bowling offies are two very different things when it comes to managing workloads tbf
 

Compton

International Debutant
I don’t think Moeen’s bowling will be too big a factor in where he bats in the middle order. In most cases he won’t bowl until Broad, Anderson, Woakes, and Overton/Ball all have at least one spell.

That won’t ever be the same session that he bats in.

When England are batting second Moeen may well bowl at the tail, but then he’ll be a few wickets before he’s due to bat anyway. It’s a non-factor.
 

Woodster

International Captain
For me Bairstow has to go six, then you can make a case for either Ali or Woakes at seven. I think Stokes is earmarked to bat at five long-term with Bairstow up to six.
 

Woodster

International Captain
Brief video on cricinfo of the pitch being rolled. Look like Kevin Mitchell Jr's final test track will be the same boring piece of **** that he's produced for the past five or so years. Flat as a tack and with lots of grass clipping rolled into the surface - a technique which I'm told is a great way of producing a track that has no sideways movement whatsoever and moderately good pace and bounce - just like normal then.

Should be another scoreboard pressure driven match with a par first innings of 400 and maybe more for the second match innings. But considering both sides' lineups anything could happen.

Would still expect England to struggle with the pace and bounce a bit.
Interesting then that Australia would go with only four bowlers if it is a flat deck ? Surely with that make-up of the side they would be hoping that there would be a little spice in the deck, wouldn't want to run the risk of spending 120 overs in the field if it is flat. Or they really don't rate this England batting line-up or their ability to play the extra bounce and pace.
 

Burgey

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I don’t think they see there being much value in the all rounder contenders from a bowling POV. Cartwright will hardly bowl any overs, Brisbane isn’t really conducive to a second offie and Henriques isn’t really up to it as a test bowler. The best bowler out of he all rounders is MMarsh, but he can’t bowl atm anyway.
 

Woodster

International Captain
I don’t think they see there being much value in the all rounder contenders from a bowling POV. Cartwright will hardly bowl any overs, Brisbane isn’t really conducive to a second offie and Henriques isn’t really up to it as a test bowler. The best bowler out of he all rounders is MMarsh, but he can’t bowl atm anyway.
But surely this physically brittle pace attack need some protection ? Someone to get through 15 (or more realistically 10) reasonably economical overs a day in order to keep the attack fresh and effective.
 

Burgey

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Yeah but who’s going to do it? Cartwright won’t bowl ten. The only realistic option is Maxwell but TPC doesn’t rate his bowling and two offies is a bit meh in Brisbane.

Having said that, he was probably unlucky to miss out on batting alone tbh
 

Spikey

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quick question folks: which thread are we using to complain about C9's ****** coverage
 

Woodster

International Captain
Yeah but who’s going to do it? Cartwright won’t bowl ten. The only realistic option is Maxwell but TPC doesn’t rate his bowling and two offies is a bit meh in Brisbane.

Having said that, he was probably unlucky to miss out on batting alone tbh
Yes I understand there may be a lack of viable options for the role, just would've thought having the option of someone that can get through a few overs could've been valuable if only to enhance the effectiveness of the real threats with the ball. Espcially when you consider there is probably very little between SMarsh and someone like Maxwell in terms of their batting alone.
 

Burgey

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Don’t disagree with you on principle here. I’m sure they’ll be pretty nervous about he attack lasting as well. Apparently TPC was rolling the arm over in the nets today, though I don’t think much can be taken from that. Shane Watson would have been an ideal six in this side, as fragile as he was himself, especially if they had an established and in form seven like they did with Hadds last time around
 

Spikey

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Warner getting hit in the neck might be why TPC was bowling. The Bull's filthy mediums are probably the only option
 

Woodster

International Captain
Don’t disagree with you on principle here. I’m sure they’ll be pretty nervous about he attack lasting as well. Apparently TPC was rolling the arm over in the nets today, though I don’t think much can be taken from that. Shane Watson would have been an ideal six in this side, as fragile as he was himself, especially if they had an established and in form seven like they did with Hadds last time around
Yes Shane Watson could've done an excellent job in at six, both with the bat and being economical with the ball.

It is difficult when any obvious options are clearly not there, as England are finding out in trying to fill a couple of the batting slots, there are pros and cons for every possible selection.
 

Starfighter

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Bancroft to send some sort of filth down to feel a real part of the side
Yeeess. One first class wicket (surprised it's that many tbh), economy rate of 8.37 and no listed bowling style on cricinfo. Only good things can happen.
 

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