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Stokes Arrested

sledger

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
fredfertang said:
Shame for him Stokes won't be able to get the case transferred to Scouseland as my understanding is that up there as long as you play for England you're allowed to wantonly attack annoying members of the public
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Would love to hear Beev's take on this. No doubt it is well-balanced and thoughtful, like most of his positions.
 
sledger

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
My **** status is more of an objective truth rather than a matter of subjective belief tbh, much like your own direness.
 
GIMH

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
I don't like it when we discuss legal matters in CC, sledger posts seriously.

SOmeone make a thread about Tendulkar for him to go and play in.
 
Lillian Thomson

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
I've never liked the jury system and would prefer all legal stuff to be decided by professionals. But when you see that in action in South Africa where after months of evidence and deliberation the judge makes a decision based purely on the finer points of the law and gets it wrong you have to wonder..............
 
StephenZA

StephenZA

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Lillian Thomson said:
I've never liked the jury system and would prefer all legal stuff to be decided by professionals. But when you see that in action in South Africa where after months of evidence and deliberation the judge makes a decision based purely on the finer points of the law and gets it wrong you have to wonder..............
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Gets it wrong? If you are talking the Pistorius case then she got nothing wrong and the system worked perfectly.... whatever the rabid internet fanatics think.
 
Lillian Thomson

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
StephenZA said:
Gets it wrong? If you are talking the Pistorius case then she got nothing wrong and the system worked perfectly.... whatever the rabid internet fanatics think.
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So a judge finding someone guilty of culpable homicide and an appeal court deciding this was wrong and changing it to murder is her doing nothing wrong and the system working perfectly?
 
Lillian Thomson

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
Yes but the point was that they decided she interpreted the law wrong, which my point was that's a flaw in that system as opposed to ours.
 
sledger

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Lillian Thomson said:
Yes but the point was that they decided she interpreted the law wrong, which my point was that's a flaw in that system as opposed to ours.
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Judges get the law "wrong" all the time here as well. Again, this is why there is a tiered structure of courts for appeals to go through etc.
 
StephenZA

StephenZA

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Lillian Thomson said:
So a judge finding someone guilty of culpable homicide and an appeal court deciding this was wrong and changing it to murder is her doing nothing wrong and the system working perfectly?
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She quite clearly stated in her initial finding that she had followed guidance given to judges to go with the lesser 'charge' when there was clear uncertainty. When the legal professionals where talking about it it was a very close opinion that could have gone either way. Don't forget the prosecution decided to go for a premeditated murder argument, which was never proven, rather than negligent murder with a firearm, which was what he eventually was found guilty of. She also quite clearly allowed the state leave to appeal due to her ruling (which she did not have to do), letting the higher court decide if she was right or wrong. So did the system work, yes clearly it did. And yes she followed guidance and made the correct legal decision.
 
Lillian Thomson

Lillian Thomson

Hall of Fame Member
Okay, do away with jury system and allow legal people to make all the mistakes between them.

Anyway who cares. It's not going to win us the Ashes.
 
TNT

TNT

Banned
sledger said:
A lesser charge than what? Defendants don't get to pick and choose what offences they are charged with you know.
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Drunk and disorderly or something like that instead of assault.Sometimes the prosecutor will lessen the charge if a guilty plea is submitted to make the process smoother.
 
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