TheJediBrah
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Bird is better than TRJ even with his wings clipped
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Road to the 2017-18 Ashes in Australia
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flibbertyjibber
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What else are we going to do when pointless stuff in pyjamas is being played?
stephen
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Bird has been in pretty amazing form in the Shield over the last two seasons - 40 wickets in 8 matches at an average of under 20 in 2015/16 and then 18 wickets at 26 in 4 matches in 2016/17. He's also shown that he has the chops to step up to international level as well. He unfortunately was injured at bad times for his international career but he's done pretty well so far. I mean not many bowlers can average 27 after only 8 tests in a stop-start career. That's on a par with Gillespie's career average. I genuinely think Bird is a gun bowler who is probably peaking right now. But he's probably only got 3-4 years left ahead of him at the top of his game, possibly less due to his age.
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Bird wouldn't be that great if they serve up roads IMO. Better off with Starc, Pattinson, Cummins etc. if they can't rely on the ball doing anything off the pitch or in the air.
Same with Sayers. He's good on standard Shield wickets but bowl him on the type of roads they've had in Tests since 2013 and he'll end up with 2-100 if he's lucky.
Day/Night tests are a different story though. If they leave grass on in Adelaide like they have they'd be very dangerous.
Same with Sayers. He's good on standard Shield wickets but bowl him on the type of roads they've had in Tests since 2013 and he'll end up with 2-100 if he's lucky.
Day/Night tests are a different story though. If they leave grass on in Adelaide like they have they'd be very dangerous.
Shri
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He's not better than Bhuvi, Shami or Yadav for starters.
Starfighter
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Umm, no.
honestbharani
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ummm.. no.
Starfighter
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Pattinson seems to have been injured more than Cummins as of late. Which is worrying for him, as he's older by a distance.
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LegionOfBrad
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Times are saying James Vince is being recalled.
morgieb
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Surely England can do better? Averaging 34 this season and failed already at Test level.
Starfighter
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Can't say he was the first name I would have thought of at this stage.
Firebreaker
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Sounds like BS though.Overton also being named
stephen
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Really? I wouldn't be so sure. On subcontinental/West Indian wickets I'd pick those three (and then maybe not Yadav). On Southern Hemisphere wickets or in England I'd take Bird any day of the week over Yadav and Shami. Bhuvi is probably better than Bird though (but you need two bowlers to open and I'd open with Bird over the other two).
stephen
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I fear that Pattinson is going to be the unluckiest bowler Australia has ever had. When Australia is at full strength I see him playing shield cricket simply because the other three are the incumbents. Which honestly would be a huge shame. He's a gun bowler and was in the form of his life last season and through the off season.