***Official*** Australia in Bangladesh 2017

[Hennybogan]

Head ain't exactly all that against spin either.

He's better than Cartwright though, and I think he'll be a world class batsman. Mind you I said Cummins would end up a superstar but the resident experts thought it was blasphemy.

 

[Starfighter]

When has that happened? How many series do we need to lose?

A home Ashes maybe?

 

[Spikey]

When has that happened? How many series do we need to lose?

This only happened with Arthur and they were special circumstances (he wasn't an Aussie)

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Great win for BD. But I do wonder whether they've caught two of the better sides at just the right time? I mean, let's be honest, England and Aus haven't had the greatest records in SC conditions even when they had teams leading the rankings, And now both sides have top orders that have huge holes in them. Couple that with both Aus and England not exactly having great spin attacks either, then one could argue that these two matches were the perfect storm for Bangladesh. Them winning these tests underlines their improvement no doubt and suggests that they could become a real problem for teams when they play at home. But I personally think we'll only really know how strong they are when they play the likes of India and Pakistan at home. Two teams who know how to play spin and can match them with their own spinners aswell. It's easy to prepare turners when you know the opposition can't match your spinners. But when the opposition CAN match you, that's a different kind of "test" in more ways than one.

You have skipped that BD beat SL in their home turf. SL is not that side anymore but it was right after they won against Aus 3-0. But I agree with you that India and Pakistan will test BD most than any other teams. Pakistan was scheduled to play us last month but they cancelled the tour. Would have been great had they toured.

 

[WindieWeathers]

You have skipped that BD beat SL in their home turf. SL is not that side anymore but it was right after they won against Aus 3-0. But I agree with you that India and Pakistan will test BD most than any other teams. Pakistan was scheduled to play us last month but they cancelled the tour. Would have been great had they toured.

But doesn't that SL 3-0 just prove my point? Beating Aus in these conditions doesn't mean you are a quality team. Aus made them look better than they were and we see what's happened to them since. I was more impressed with the fight BD showed in NZ tbh than what they did in SL.

 

[Starfighter]

He's better than Cartwright though, and I think he'll be a world class batsman. Mind you I said Cummins would end up a superstar but the resident experts thought it was blasphemy.

He plays with hard hands well away from his body. Won't be a recipe for success when the ball's moving.

And Cummins ain't a superstar yet. He's spent most of the past five years injured.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

But doesn't that SL 3-0 just prove my point? Beating Aus in these conditions doesn't mean you are a quality team. Aus made them look better than they were and we see what's happened to them since. I was more impressed with the fight BD showed in NZ tbh than what they did in SL.

No because you are talking about teams that play spin well and have better spinners

 

[OverratedSanity]

But yea India or Pakistan aren't gonna tour here anytime soon



Bunch of chickens

Sheesh don't you even remember? India toured in 2015 and escaped with a draw

 

[Prince EWS]

But doesn't that SL 3-0 just prove my point? Beating Aus in these conditions doesn't mean you are a quality team. Aus made them look better than they were and we see what's happened to them since. I was more impressed with the fight BD showed in NZ tbh than what they did in SL.

No-one thinks Bangladesh are a quality team though. People are just happy/excited that they seem to have progressed from completely irrelevant to a competitive team that can win games at home. It's a big development for cricket to have gone back to nine genuine Test teams after quite a few years being at eight. They're still only the ninth best of the nine, but that's fine.

 

[OverratedSanity]

But doesn't that SL 3-0 just prove my point? Beating Aus in these conditions doesn't mean you are a quality team. Aus made them look better than they were and we see what's happened to them since. I was more impressed with the fight BD showed in NZ tbh than what they did in SL.

Bangladesh beat SL in SL a few months ago

Also no one thinks they're a top quality team. They've just improved a lot.

 

[burr]

Well done Bangas!!!! Eng and now Aus that's got to be good for the game. What a week of test cricket.

What is Australia's record in tight test matches, I get the impression it's terrible. Tbh I don't think Haze will be much of a loss, his record in Asia is pretty poor.

 

[WindieWeathers]

No because you are talking about teams that play spin well and have better spinners

SL's top order was a mess though so only half of my point was proven .

 

[WindieWeathers]

Bangladesh beat SL in SL a few months ago

Also no one thinks they're a top quality team. They've just improved a lot.

And Zimbabwe nearly beat them the other day too.....

 

[Howe_zat]

No-one thinks Bangladesh are a quality team though. People are just happy/excited that they seem to have progressed from completely irrelevant to a competitive team that can win games at home. It's a big development for cricket to have gone back to nine genuine Test teams after quite a few years being at eight. They're still only the ninth best of the nine, but that's fine.

I know this is a bad time to be mouthing the West Indies but I think Bangladesh are better. The standard of cricket in Leeds has been poor.

 

[Athlai]

No-one thinks Bangladesh are a quality team though. People are just happy/excited that they seem to have progressed from completely irrelevant to a competitive team that can win games at home. It's a big development for cricket to have gone back to nine genuine Test teams after quite a few years being at eight. They're still only the ninth best of the nine, but that's fine.

I also think it's exciting that you'd say that if the game is in Bangladesh, they aren't 9th best either, there's a few times that will now tour Bangladesh as underdogs. How great is that? Makes cricket more interesting

 

[OverratedSanity]

I know this is a bad time to be mouthing the West Indies but I think Bangladesh are better. The standard of cricket in Leeds has been poor.

Hmm, only the fielding standard. I'd say WI's batting and bowling was consistently pretty decent, and at times world class.

Depends on the conditions, really. As much as Bangladesh have improved, there's simply no way they're winning tests in Eng any time soon.

 

[Firebreaker]

National shame for Aussie players

 

[Prince EWS]

I know this is a bad time to be mouthing the West Indies but I think Bangladesh are better. The standard of cricket in Leeds has been poor.

See this post is just really unfortunate because you know what's going to come after it. You didn't need to make it at all to show that WW was posting crap, but now he's going to ignore the less debatable criticisms of his post and argue this more controversial one where he can actually manufacture a point.

Thanks a lot.

 

[WindieWeathers]

I know this is a bad time to be mouthing the West Indies but I think Bangladesh are better. The standard of cricket in Leeds has been poor.

Two away wins against sides in the top three is much more significant than beating teams at home in hugely favorable conditions imo. But hey, we'll be playing them at home soon so we'll see if your notion proves to be correct.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I also think it's exciting that you'd say that if the game is in Bangladesh, they aren't 9th best either, there's a few times that will now tour Bangladesh as underdogs. How great is that? Makes cricket more interesting

It's great isn't it? I think this is the first time in ages where every single test playing nation right now (apart from Zim, but they don't really count anyway) can beat any of the other nations under the right conditions. We've heard plenty of talk about how teams aren't winning enough away from home, but at the same time, there's a level of parity (again, under certain conditions) which we haven't had before in tests.

Not a single country is a complete pushover and that's fantastic.