*** Official*** South Africa in England 2017

[grecian]

I presume Big Vern can't have been trying too hard when he had his stint at Sussex earlier this summer

Meh, he's good, but he's no Jofra Archer.

 

[grecian]

Cook has had notable problems against quality stump-to-stump fast bowling throughout his career though. That he's batted well today doesn't change that.

Who hasn't. He's an opening bat, he gets the best bowling in the best conditions, to ignore when he does well, and just to highlight when he does badly is pretty much just reductive trolling.

 

[Spark]

Who hasn't. He's an opening bat, he gets the best bowling in the best conditions, to ignore when he does well, and just to highlight when he does badly is pretty much just reductive trolling.

"Notable" = "relative to players of comparable quality"

 

[grecian]

"Notable" = "relative to players of comparable quality"

Does Social say that? Or does he just use it to denigrate an English player or achievement, like his is wont.

Edit: Oh ****it who cares maybe he does, I apologise I seem to have an especially nasty temper on the interweb nowadays. Think I could do with a politics filter.

 

[Howe_zat]

Who hasn't. He's an opening bat, he gets the best bowling in the best conditions, to ignore when he does well, and just to highlight when he does badly is pretty much just reductive trolling.

well yes, but this is why putting social on ignore and not bringing him up in a thread is probably the best course of action.

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Cook certainly seems to have enough quirks in his method to let there be exploitable weaknesses, but that's easier said than done isn't it. Hasn't stopped him scoring a shitload of runs.

 

[GRAB]

Enthralling first day... Honours about even? Philander phenomenal, but Cook fought back, he had a few breaks, but you need a few. There's a lack of gritty players in test cricket. England have Cook, Root and maybe Ali. We have Amla and du Plessis. We had our own Cook, but perhaps he was just picked at the wrong point of his career. Perhaps if he hadn't kept Graeme out of the Lions opening spot and forced him to Cobras, etc. etc.

 

[Bijed]

BBC live text headline: 'Cook on course for century'

Honestly. Asking for it.

Howe complaining about jinxing, the irony

 

[Cabinet96]

It's probably time to add Jennings to the wheel.

 

[Cabinet96]

Quite interesting. Not the first time Dobell has talked about Cook's use of Palmer. Cook's openness a lesson for England - ESPN Cricinfo

 

[cnerd123]

Hardik Pandya gets to debut against Kumara bowling half trackers on a flat pitch while Malan gets that yorker from Rabada

Life isn't fair.

 

[Burgey]

Mad dog Malan with a Mad Dog Maddo-type dayboo.

 

[CricAddict]

Guys who are generally considered in the past years as "Bowled so well, but unlucky to not get more wickets" such as Gillespie, Flintoff, Ishant and Morne are all slightly similar type of bowlers (hit the wicket kind of bowlers). Is that something to do with their type of bowling?

 

[mr_mister]

maybe they should hit the stumps more

 

[morgieb]

Guys who are generally considered in the past years as "Bowled so well, but unlucky to not get more wickets" such as Gillespie, Flintoff, Ishant and Morne are all slightly similar type of bowlers (hit the wicket kind of bowlers). Is that something to do with their type of bowling?

Length has a lot to do with it. In essense those guys bowl a fraction too short to be taking regular wickets.

There probably are bowlers who actually do bowl so well that they can't get the edge, but most of the time it's because their length isn't quite a wicket-taking one.

 

[mr_mister]

Gilllespie's cricinfo profile states that "Gillespie's flaw is his tendency for it to do too much. No other contemporary fast man has elicited so many plays-and-misses. It explains, perhaps, along with his slightly samey length, why Gillespie never quite imposed himself as Australia's No. 1 strike bowler."


creative license or reality there by the author?

 

[honestbharani]

Bit of creative licence. While what he says is true on occasion, there were also any number of occasions where he benefited from bowling in an attack with McWarne. Also, he often had spells where he will be taken to the cleaners, not always this play and miss spell nonsense.

 

[fredfertang]

Just seen Malan's dismissal for the first time - he won't be wanting to see that too often

 

[mackembhoy]

Stoneman would have been my choice but with an Aussie coach in there I believe they wanted someone more of a strokemaker. I say England should just pick who suits their team and fashion be blowed. The best era/s of English cricket have been with conservative stalwarts around a gun middle order player. Root should be at 4 all day long.

Rocky for Durham was a run a ball or 30/40/50 very consistently and then got out.

Was very frustrating.

 

[Spark]

Mad dog Malan with a Mad Dog Maddo-type dayboo.

tbf, malan didn't look quite as lost as maddinson did there.

 

[marc71178]

Rocky for Durham was a run a ball or 30/40/50 very consistently and then got out.

Was very frustrating.

If that's all he could do in county cricket it's a good job he didn't get called up.