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*** Official*** South Africa in England 2017

Heboric

International Regular
The revolving door that seems to be England cricket at the moment.



Must give opposition teams analyst a headache - really earning their salary
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Does anyone here know much about TRJ?

All I know is what I read in Vic Marks' piece on Sunday about him being, iirc, 29 and averaging about 35 this season.
Picking the man who's in form again then.

Although I was having a quick nose at the Div 1 averages and Malan's leggies have propelled him to 4th amongst the bowlers. 7 wickets at a tick over 14. For comparison Dawson's 18 have come at exactly 30.

Just sayin'...
 

mr_mister

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It really is turning into 90s England again isnt it


Although that was more a revolving door of bowlers wasn't it, it was generally always Athers and Stewart/Butcher up top correct?
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
The revolving door that seems to be England cricket at the moment.



Must give opposition teams analyst a headache - really earning their salary
3 new players in this test takes England to 14 for the series, same as SA, doesn't it?
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Not really that unusual is it?
That was my take on it too. 14 or 15 players in a four match series isn't the end of the world, even if we all know that there is a bigger picture that isn't too rosy.

We're a long way removed from the 1990s, and even more so than the 1980s.
 
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Daemon

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tbf they'd probably only booked enough hotel rooms to go along with the original plan of 'cover Faf then send one home'. So they decided **** it, keep Markram and send Duminy home instead.
The way their players go on about each other I'm sure someone would be willing to share a bed
 

mr_mister

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
That was my take on it too. 14 or 15 players in a four match series isn't the end of the world, even if we all know that there is a bigger picture that isn't too rosy.

We're a long way removed from the 1990s, and even more so than the 1980s.

well the point everyone keeps bringing up is the number of partners Cook has had since Strauss. And it is a lot
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Yes, and that's part of the bigger picture I was referring to.
Thinking about it, the mid to late 1990's, for the most part was a bit different as it came down to choosing from a set pool of batsmen (Atherton, Stewart, Butcher, Thorpe, Knight, Hussain, Crawley, Ramprakash and Hick) and a set pool of quicks (Gough, Fraser, Cork, Headley, Caddick, Mullally and Malcolm), depending on who was in form and favour. Beyond that, Russell sometimes got a look in plus whichever spinner was deemed fit for purpose. I know we sometimes had silly season selections like the Hollyoaks, but that seemed like the exception rather than the rule.
 
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mr_mister

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Don't forget Thorpe!



And the spinner rotation always interested me. Giles-Tuffers-Salisbury-Croft-Such all have such horrible records don't they?
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Don't forget Thorpe!



And the spinner rotation always interested me. Giles-Tuffers-Salisbury-Croft-Such all have such horrible records don't they?
I can't believe I forgot Thorpe! Now amended.

As for the spinners, yeah they weren't great. Giles was a bit later tbf, and probably carried out his role in the side better than any of the others.
 

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