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OverratedSanity

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He already had points. Had he been on 0 points he wouldn't miss a match, it is his own stupid fault.

I am not a big fan of the ruling but it is hard to have sympathy for the player when he would know he is close to a ban.
You can think he did something stupid and still have sympathy though. It's a very tame send-off.
 

harsh.ag

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He already had points. Had he been on 0 points he wouldn't miss a match, it is his own stupid fault.

I am not a big fan of the ruling but it is hard to have sympathy for the player when he would know he is close to a ban.
But the precedent we're talking about is about being given a point for a send off. Since it wasn't applied till now, the reasonable thing for the administrators to do would have been to begin with a warning and not with a point.
 

Prince EWS

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I don't really have any sympathy for Rabada; the sympathy I have is for the people who his punishment is also indirectly punishing, when it would have been quite easy to target the punishment more specifically to the deserving party.
 

Pratters

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There is nothing wrong with saying **** off to a batsman after getting his wicket. It's not ideal but it's not a big deal. They are not children. If you are so concerned about children who are watching the games being scarred for life, put a PG13 certificate or some thing before the games.
 

flibbertyjibber

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But the precedent we're talking about is about being given a point for a send off. Since it wasn't applied till now, the reasonable thing for the administrators to do would have been to begin with a warning and not with a point.
Why?

If you bring a rule in and then not bother to enforce it what is the point. I am certain that since this rule has come in the players have discussed it in team meetings to drill it into them that they can't do it. If they haven't done that then the team management are thick.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Kohli kept swearing after hitting boundaries v Pakistan. Was he swearing at the players or as an exult can never be clear enough. Why was he not banned?
 

harsh.ag

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Why?

If you bring a rule in and then not bother to enforce it what is the point. I am certain that since this rule has come in the players have discussed it in team meetings to drill it into them that they can't do it. If they haven't done that then the team management are thick.
Yeah, it's always the players at fault.
 

StephenZA

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Why?

If you bring a rule in and then not bother to enforce it what is the point. I am certain that since this rule has come in the players have discussed it in team meetings to drill it into them that they can't do it. If they haven't done that then the team management are thick.
Is this a new rule or just a rule that is not normally enforced? The issue I have here is I have seen far worse in international cricket with nothing ending in a ban...as I said earlier if this becomes common place so be it, but I doubt very much you will see another player get a ban even if they have worse behaviour than this.
 

theegyptian

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You can sledge me all you like whilst I'm batting. If your batting you can always respond.

However sledging you once you are out. I've been told to **** off (or similar) three times when out in my cricket career. All in bad tempered games. One of the times I had to use all my restraint not to smash the bowler around the head with the cricket bat, and I'm a pretty mild mannered guy.

It may be an old fashioned belief but sledging I feel is fine (within reason) whilst the other player can respond, but once they are out it's futile (in match terms), and used as an incendiary tactic with the knowledge that the batsman can't do anything to reply. A cheap shot.



If it's ok for the bowler to tell the bat to **** off, does the batsman have the right to reply in the same manner? Or is it just the bowlers privilege.
 

flibbertyjibber

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Is this a new rule or just a rule that is not normally enforced? The issue I have here is I have seen far worse in international cricket with nothing ending in a ban...as I said earlier if this becomes common place so be it, but I doubt very much you will see another player get a ban even if they have worse behaviour than this.
From what I read, seems a new rule. If it is an existing one they haven't previously enforced then it stinks more than the dump I just had after last nights curry.
 

harsh.ag

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why did you delete your post harsh?

pretty cowardly action tbh. that of a bloke who sends batsman off.
So realizing what you posted was insensitive and deleting it is cowardly. Got it. Just like the rest of your points. Everyone should be perfect, always.
 

fredfertang

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You can sledge me all you like whilst I'm batting. If your batting you can always respond.

However sledging you once you are out. I've been told to **** off (or similar) three times when out in my cricket career. All in bad tempered games. One of the times I had to use all my restraint not to smash the bowler around the head with the cricket bat, and I'm a pretty mild mannered guy.

It may be an old fashioned belief but sledging I feel is fine (within reason) whilst the other player can respond, but once they are out it's futile (in match terms), and used as an incendiary tactic with the knowledge that the batsman can't do anything to reply. A cheap shot.



If it's ok for the bowler to tell the bat to **** off, does the batsman have the right to reply in the same manner? Or is it just the bowlers privilege.
Best riposte I ever heard to a send off was "sorry to be leaving mate but Rebecca (the bowler's girlfriend) wants to see me while you're out of the way" - made me laugh at the time, but as the new batsman I wasn't laughing for long
 

flibbertyjibber

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Does look like this is a new way to control player behaviour.
https://www.icc-cricket.com/about/cricket/rules-and-regulations/code-of-conduct

Looks quite strict.
Which the players SHOULD be aware of so I have little sympathy for Rabada over it.

In a way it is like a new rule in football at the start of the season and refs are either sending people off willy nilly or giving what are deemed soft penalties every week for a month or so. The players will adapt but somebody has to take the pain first, it just happens Rabada already had points on his record from before so is hit with the ban. It sucks but it is what it is.
 

StephenZA

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Which the players SHOULD be aware of so I have little sympathy for Rabada over it.

In a way it is like a new rule in football at the start of the season and refs are either sending people off willy nilly or giving what are deemed soft penalties every week for a month or so. The players will adapt but somebody has to take the pain first, it just happens Rabada already had points on his record from before so is hit with the ban. It sucks but it is what it is.
Dickewella was actually the first ban with 2 ODI's.

I think, it is upsetting because this is the first time it has happened for a Test, in an important series with a top player. Hopefully the system continues to be fairly administrated on this is all I can say...


Paul Harris on the SS channel here in SA looks like he might have a stroke over this...
 

MW1304

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You can sledge me all you like whilst I'm batting. If your batting you can always respond.

However sledging you once you are out. I've been told to **** off (or similar) three times when out in my cricket career. All in bad tempered games. One of the times I had to use all my restraint not to smash the bowler around the head with the cricket bat, and I'm a pretty mild mannered guy.

It may be an old fashioned belief but sledging I feel is fine (within reason) whilst the other player can respond, but once they are out it's futile (in match terms), and used as an incendiary tactic with the knowledge that the batsman can't do anything to reply. A cheap shot.



If it's ok for the bowler to tell the bat to **** off, does the batsman have the right to reply in the same manner? Or is it just the bowlers privilege.
I don't know that you're as mild-mannered as you think you are.
 

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