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Lions tour of New Zealand 2017

MW1304

Cricketer Of The Year
I can't say I entirely understand Lions selection. How does England's second choice hooker manage to be a starting Test player?
 

Howe_zat

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I can't say I entirely understand Lions selection. How does England's second choice hooker manage to be a starting Test player?
George is better than Hartley and it's not close any more. He's also the starting hooker for Saracens, who are European champions. Hartley still starts for England because he's captain, and has slowly been playing fewer and fewer minutes before being subbed off. Most people agree we're just waiting for Jones to change the England captaincy in order to play George more.

Once the top few choices in each position get on the plane and the tour starts, Test selection is usually about form on tour rather than anything else.
 

MW1304

Cricketer Of The Year
George is better than Hartley and it's not close any more. He's also the starting hooker for Saracens, who are European champions. Hartley still starts for England because he's captain, and has slowly been playing fewer and fewer minutes before being subbed off. Most people agree we're just waiting for Jones to change the England captaincy in order to play George more.

Once the top few choices in each position get on the plane and the tour starts, Test selection is usually about form on tour rather than anything else.
Fair enough. I usually just follow internationals, where Hartley was class for a while there. It just looks strange to see two or three English players in the starting Lions XV who don't tend to get into England's. I suppose we are strong at the moment though.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
It's a fairly ballsy selection from Gatland. I can't quite get on board with the Williams, L at fullback shout, but there's no doubting it's the braver pick than going for Halfpenny.

Williams offers more going forward (at least in theory), but it does rather look like one good game against a weakened Waikato has allowed Wazza to draw a veil over how he's stunk up the tour beforehand. I think we can expect him to be tested out with a few bombs early doors.

No Georgeous George at all is a bit of a surprise, but the great man hasn't looked himself so far and Daly is a great footballer with serious gas. Covers everywhere from 11-15 too, so gives the Lions a bit of flexibility a bench with three backs who're all pretty much specialists wouldn't otherwise have.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
It's a fairly ballsy selection from Gatland. I can't quite get on board with the Williams, L at fullback shout, but there's no doubting it's the braver pick than going for Halfpenny.

Williams offers more going forward (at least in theory), but it does rather look like one good game against a weakened Waikato has allowed Wazza to draw a veil over how he's stunk up the tour beforehand. I think we can expect him to be tested out with a few bombs early doors.

No Georgeous George at all is a bit of a surprise, but the great man hasn't looked himself so far and Daly is a great footballer with serious gas. Covers everywhere from 11-15 too, so gives the Lions a bit of flexibility a bench with three backs who're all pretty much specialists wouldn't otherwise have.
He's probably concussed.
 

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They'll be disappointed not to have scored there as well.

And as I type this, another line break! Looking very dangerous.
 

Howsie

Cricketer Of The Year
Sigh, the All Blacks will run away with this now. The Lions had there chances but couldn't finish, the All Blacks will show them how it's done unfortunately.
 

Howe_zat

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Yeah the pantsing commenced after about 55 minutes

Maybe if Watson's break early in the second half had been finished off things would have been different. Lions were on top for the first 10 minutes after half time but got no points.

NZ just too good. Sometimes sport ain't fair
 

vogue

International Vice-Captain
Yeah the pantsing commenced after about 55 minutes

Maybe if Watson's break early in the second half had been finished off things would have been different. Lions were on top for the first 10 minutes after half time but got no points.

NZ just too good. Sometimes sport ain't fair
Ay. NZ are so very good. Enjoyed the match though. And that Lions try... :)
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Australia is the only country that has a prayer of beating the ABs in the near future and that's only if we somehow convince our best kids to play rugby and not league or aussie rules

Won't happen
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah the pantsing commenced after about 55 minutes

Maybe if Watson's break early in the second half had been finished off things would have been different. Lions were on top for the first 10 minutes after half time but got no points.

NZ just too good. Sometimes sport ain't fair
Yeah, no surprise to come home to this score. I actually told my son that a 15 point margin of NZ victory was the likeliest outcome, and so it turned out.
 

Flem274*

123/5
that was fun for 60 minutes until we ran away with it. good to win, but was hoping for a tight win because im so patriotic like that

lions dropping the ball constantly when they had chances was frustrating even for an ABs fan
 

S.Kennedy

International Vice-Captain
I heard they got a pasting?

Australia is the only country that has a prayer of beating the ABs in the near future and that's only if we somehow convince our best kids to play rugby and not league or aussie rules

Won't happen
Didn't the Scottish beat your lot in Sydney of all places?
 

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