6th June - Group A - England v New Zealand

[Zinzan]

Yeah, it is going to be touch and go. Was 2 reviews as well, and England may be responsible for some of the delay. I can't really remember. It is pretty shoddy to be that far behind though, especially as innings should have ended when England were 6 down.

Wasn't there was a longish physio break for an England batsman at one stage too?

 

[91Jmay]

Wasn't there was a longish physio break for an England batsman at one stage too?

Yeah there might have been, I can't remember much to be honest. Will come out in the wash I expect.

 

[cnerd123]

Umpires keep track of time lost to 'Good Cause' - this means any time the ball gets lost, the batsmen ask for new gloves, a decision gets sent to the third umpires, or any other reason when play is halted for which the bowling side isn't to blame. This time lost is basically time forgiven to the bowling side. For example, if the innings ends 15 minutes later than it should, but the umpires have recorded down 15 minutes lost to 'Good Cause', the bowling side is considered to have finished the innings on time.

Now I can't answer this part for certain, but as far as my umpiring experience has gone, we don't penalise teams for being slow if they happen to bowl the other side out before scheduled close of play. IE, if they're starting the 46th over at the time they should be starting the 50th, but pick up the 10th wicket, and we go off the field for the change of innings at the scheduled time, then there is no punishment. But that's club cricket in HK, I'm pretty sure International cricket will be far stricter.

My guess would be that they'll see how many overs should have been bowled at the time the innings ended, how many were actually bowled, factor in the 'Good Cause' time, and then figure out how far behind the overrate the bowling side is. There would be some protocol in play (probably something in the ICC playing conditions) about how slow the side must be to incur a penalty. Since all slow overrate penalties are outside of the game, this may actually not even be in the playing conditions, but be in some other set of rules/guidelines that the match referee/tournament organiser/whoever decides on these penalties will refer to.

It's an interesting question. I'll ask around and get back to you all if I find an answer. I'm sure some clever googling might be able to provide an answer too.

 

[91Jmay]

Any reduction in overs massively favours NZ I think with all 10 wickets in the tank.

 

[Daemon]

This is Howe's fault

 

[mr_mister]

Who advances out of NZ and Australia if they both get 3 washouts. There's no run rate tallied since they aren't completed games. Toss a coin?

 

[tobe_ornot2]

Who advances out of NZ and Australia if they both get 3 washouts. There's no run rate tallied since they aren't completed games. Toss a coin?

Probably whoever is ranked higher. But I don't think this situation is likely.

 

[cnerd123]

Who advances out of NZ and Australia if they both get 3 washouts. There's no run rate tallied since they aren't completed games. Toss a coin?

Can't get into the semis if you haven't even played a game. That's ludicrous.

The only obvious solution is Bangladesh goes through

 

[mr_mister]

Probably whoever is ranked higher. But I don't think this situation is likely.

We're halfway there

 

[WalkingWicket]

Jake Ball must be pretty chuffed that he's managed to squeeze two games out of his inclusion in this squad, bowled pretty atrociously in the last game.

EDIT: oh ffs

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Cant latham open and keep?

 

[cnerd123]

lol Ronchi

Jake Ball must be pretty chuffed that he's managed to squeeze two games out of his inclusion in this squad, bowled pretty atrociously in the last game.

nice one

 

[vogue]

Yesss... great start!

 

[MW1304]

Ball.

 

[91Jmay]

I am glad Ronchi used his form for the next 6 months last dig. Game hinging partnership now.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Great start by England so far

 

[91Jmay]

Yeah, Test match length so far. Need to break this partnership though because run rate won't be a concern for a while yet.

 

[91Jmay]

Sheesh that's a good ball. Bit of movement here.

 

[vcs]

jenil: "22 runs in 7 overs. Statistician in me says they are scoring at pi runs per over, Mathematician in me refuses." Oh, those internal conflicts ...

From cricinfo live commentary

 

[wpdavid]

Yeah, Test match length so far. Need to break this partnership though because run rate won't be a concern for a while yet.

And they're looking comfortable now. Ball especially innocuous after his great start.