The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[Howe_zat]

ODI Allrounders XI

Sanath Jayasuriya
Shane Watson
Jacques Kallis
MS Dhoni (can bowl)
Paul Collingwood
Shakib Al Hasan
Shahid Afridi
Andrew Flintoff
Dan Vettori
Shaun Pollock
Wasim Akram

All-round XI

David Boon
Mark Cosgrove
Warwick Armstrong
Inzamam Ul-haq
Mike Gatting
Arjuna Ranatunga
Ian Smith
Ian Austin
Shane Warne
Rangana Herath
Eddo Brandes

 

[Burgey]

Should've named His Roundness skipper there. Fer shame.

 

[Howe_zat]

What's the best side you can make in alphabetical order?

1. Barnes
2. Boycott
3. Bradman
4. Chappell
5. Hammond
6. Kallis
7. Knott
8. Imran
9. Marshall
10. Trueman
11. Warne

 

[smash84]

What's the best side you can make in alphabetical order?

1. Barnes
2. Boycott
3. Bradman
4. Chappell
5. Hammond
6. Kallis
7. Knott
8. Imran
9. Marshall
10. Trueman
11. Warne

Imran is the only one with a first name in there

 

[Howe_zat]

Imran is the only one with a first name in there

7. Khan, 8. Knott works just as well fortunately

 

[harsh.ag]

What's the best side you can make in alphabetical order?

1. Barnes
2. Boycott
3. Bradman
4. Chappell
5. Hammond
6. Kallis
7. Knott
8. Imran
9. Marshall
10. Trueman
11. Warne

Imran can't come after Knott, since Khan comes first in alphabetical order. Pedantic ****ery but still. Plus, both McGrath and Steyn in front of Trueman, surely?

So if Imran is at 7 and Knott at 8, bowling could be:

9. Marshall
10. McGrath
11. Warne

or if you are bent on keeping batting line up as per batting prowess, then:

9. Marshall
10. McGrath
11. Murali

 

[Prince EWS]

>inb4 debate over whether McGrath actually does come after Marshall in a proper alphabetised list

 

[Howe_zat]

I don't think McGrath can bat ahead of Murali so it's a cheat either way

 

[Howe_zat]

One with better openers

1. Gavaskar
2. Hobbs
3. Hutton
4. Lara
5. Miandad
6. Miller
7. Sangakkara+
8. Pollock
9. Trueman/Steyn
10. Underwood
11. Walsh

 

[mr_mister]

>inb4 debate over whether McGrath actually does come after Marshall in a proper alphabetised list

why wouldn't he? is the c silent or something

 

[Burgey]

I dunno. Barnes and Boycott were pretty handy themselves.

 

[Burgey]

why wouldn't he? is the c silent or something

I think it's regarded as a shortened Mac

 

[AndrewB]

An alphabetical England XI without any repeated initials:

Amiss
Boycott
Compton
Dexter
Edrich
Greig
Knott
Larwood
Trueman
Underwood
Willis

 

[Prince EWS]

why wouldn't he? is the c silent or something

Mc is sorted as Mac a lot of the time. It's died out with automatic computer sorting but it's still regarded as the 'proper' way by many.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_and_Mc_together

 

[Red]

Which would win a World Cup 50 over comp if all the players were magically able to play as young men?


Australia

M. Waugh
A. Gilchrist +
R. Ponting
D. Jones
A. Symonds
M. Hussey
S. Watson
B. Lee
S. Warne
M. Starc
G. McGrath


South Africa

G. Smith
H. Gibbs
H. Amla
AB. DeVilliers
J. Kallis
J. Rhodes
Q. de Kock +
L. Klusener
S. Pollock
D. Steyn
A. Donald


England

M. Trescothick
N. Knight
J. Root
K. Pietersen
A. Lamb
P. Collingwood
J. Buttler +
I. Botham
A. Flintoff
G. Swann
D. Gough


West Indies

C. Gayle
G. Greenidge
V. Richards
B. Lara
C. Lloyd
C. Hooper
J Dujon +
M. Marshall
M. Holding
J. Garner
C. Ambrose


Pakistan

S. Anwar
S. Afridi
Z. Abbas
J. Miandad
I. ul Haq
I. Khan
A. Razzaq
W. Akram
M. Khan +
A. Qadir
W. Younis


India

S. Tendulkar
S. Ganguly
V. Kohli
Y. Singh
MS .Dhoni +
S. Raina
K. Dev
R. Ashwin
H. Singh
J. Srinath
Z. Khan


NZ

G. Turner
M. Guptill
K. Williamson
M. Crowe
R. Taylor
B. McCullum +
C. Cairns
R. Hadlee
D. Vettori
S. Bond
T. Boult


SL

S. Jayasuriya
T. Dilshan
K. Sangakkara +
A. de Silva
A. Ranatunga
M. Attapattu
A. Matthews
C. Vaas
L. Malinga
K. Kulasakera
M. Muralitharan

 

[Zinzan]

^ My rankings..

1) Australia - (great all-round side - no real weaknesses)

2) South Africa - (very strong, just lacking spinner, could play Tahir)

3) = Pakistan/West Indies (Pak, good balanced side, WI - excellent side, lacking spin & batting depth of other sides)

5) New Zealand (Excellent allround side with very underrated & very deep batting, Vettori - top 3-4 ODI spinners ever)

6) Sri Lanka (lacking a little in pace bowling, but strong everywhere else)

7) India (strong batting, relatively very weak bowling, hard to see many of those bowlers making other sides)

8) England (good side, without being great - very few genuine ODI stars)

 

[Prince EWS]

This one's for TH

Short XI - Batsmen/WK =/< 5'8 (1.73 m), Bowlers =/<5'11 (1.80m)

Vs.

Tall XI - Batsmen/WK =/> 6'1 (1.85 m), Bowlers =/>6'3 (1.91m)

Short XI

Gavaskar
Warner
Bradman
Tendulkar
Lara
Shakib
Knott+
Marshall
Steyn
Trueman
Murali


Tall XI

Smith
Hayden
Pietersen
G Pollock
Kallis
Inzamam
Gilchrist+
Vettori
Akram
Ambrose
McGrath

Who wins & what's a good 'inbetweens' XI?

Shameless from cricinfo.

Blogs: The tallest cricketers XI | Cricket Blogs | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[Zinzan]

Shameless from cricinfo.

Blogs: The tallest cricketers XI | Cricket Blogs | ESPN Cricinfo

Lol, look at the dates too.

 

[stephen]

Which would win a World Cup 50 over comp if all the players were magically able to play as young men?


Australia

M. Waugh
A. Gilchrist +
R. Ponting
D. Jones
A. Symonds
M. Hussey
S. Watson
B. Lee
S. Warne
M. Starc
G. McGrath


South Africa

G. Smith
H. Gibbs
H. Amla
AB. DeVilliers
J. Kallis
J. Rhodes
Q. de Kock +
L. Klusener
S. Pollock
D. Steyn
A. Donald


England

M. Trescothick
N. Knight
J. Root
K. Pietersen
A. Lamb
P. Collingwood
J. Buttler +
I. Botham
A. Flintoff
G. Swann
D. Gough


West Indies

C. Gayle
G. Greenidge
V. Richards
B. Lara
C. Lloyd
C. Hooper
J Dujon +
M. Marshall
M. Holding
J. Garner
C. Ambrose


Pakistan

S. Anwar
S. Afridi
Z. Abbas
J. Miandad
I. ul Haq
I. Khan
A. Razzaq
W. Akram
M. Khan +
A. Qadir
W. Younis


India

S. Tendulkar
S. Ganguly
V. Kohli
Y. Singh
MS .Dhoni +
S. Raina
K. Dev
R. Ashwin
H. Singh
J. Srinath
Z. Khan


NZ

G. Turner
M. Guptill
K. Williamson
M. Crowe
R. Taylor
B. McCullum +
C. Cairns
R. Hadlee
D. Vettori
S. Bond
T. Boult


SL

S. Jayasuriya
T. Dilshan
K. Sangakkara +
A. de Silva
A. Ranatunga
M. Attapattu
A. Matthews
C. Vaas
L. Malinga
K. Kulasakera
M. Muralitharan

Why would you not pick Bevan in your Aus XI? And why Lee over Lillee?

 

[Shri]

Starc, Lee and McGrath are crazy good when it comes to WCs. They average 10, 17 and 18 with the ball respectively.