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***Official*** England in India 2016/17
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mackembhoy
International Regular
No way is Bairstow better.
But Billings looks to good to leave out. Such is the make up of our side Morgan is the only player that can make way for him.
Sadly Sams gonna be carrying drinks.
Burner
International Regular
Yeah, agree, it'll be very harsh on him to be left out given that he also scored a 92 in the warm ups.
indiaholic
International Captain
That was entirely the board's fault. Why give player's options? If you are satisfied with the security, then everybody goes, if no then nobody does.
S.Kennedy
International Vice-Captain
I suppose Morgan can do whatever he wants but the problem is Strauss and co. were terribly politically correct about it, saying the decision would not affect future selection. The players who went also gave off politically correct statements (''we respect his decision'') but he is supposed to be the captain, and for any young player such as a Ben Duckett who went to Bangladesh, how is that supposed to look, that your captain disregarded the security checks of your head organisation and basically wimped out? It does not really affect Hales as much as he is not captain.
It is made even more hypocritical when you discover Morgan has played franchise cricket in Bangladesh!!
Morgan is the worst kind of mercenary. Remember when he couldn't be arsed to play against Ireland? He should be proudly playing for Ireland really - not England; he should be helping them secure their test status. With Morgan, Joyce and Porterfield in there, they would look like a decent proposition - at least at List A level.
It is made even more hypocritical when you discover Morgan has played franchise cricket in Bangladesh!!
Morgan is the worst kind of mercenary. Remember when he couldn't be arsed to play against Ireland? He should be proudly playing for Ireland really - not England; he should be helping them secure their test status. With Morgan, Joyce and Porterfield in there, they would look like a decent proposition - at least at List A level.
mackembhoy
International Regular
Not much discussing us an ODI side prior to 2015 for a long time.
srbhkshk
International Captain
Not in that sense, of course they have never been a particularly great side - but they do poorly against India compared to other countries even after taking that into account.
srbhkshk
International Captain
Burgey
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Players can choose not to go anywhere, as much as we may not like it. They just have to wear the consequences (or not, as the case may be).
indiaholic
International Captain
They shouldn't though. When my job requires me to travel, I don't get to refuse going to Chennai because I don't like the place. This is not like tennis where the individual decides. Has to be the decision of the employer.
cnerd123
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I think it's a bit of both. If the ECB said 'You have to go' and Morgan said 'Nah I don't wanna', then the ECB can then rightfully tell Morgan he has to cop the consequences of not going.
if the ECB says 'Hey you can pull out if you want', they can't then also then punish Morgan for taking the option presented to him.
The ECB had to be firm on their stance on the safety of the tour, instead of being wishy-washy and then get annoyed at players for doing something they told them they could do.
OverratedSanity
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Yeah they should've said "It's perfectly safe" and ended it there. By saying players can choose whether to tour, it sent mixed signals.
S.Kennedy
International Vice-Captain
That is what they were, wishy-washy. Strauss said there would be no repercussions if a player decided to not join, but then followed that up with a statement saying he was 'very disappointed' (in Morgan and Hales' refusal).
They'd committed themselves to this politically correct line but were obviously pissed off.
They'd committed themselves to this politically correct line but were obviously pissed off.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah I don't think they should be 'punished' for not touring, but equally I don't think they should have effectively had their spots promised to them either. England should be picking their best team, and if they now don't think the blokes who didn't tour are part of it anymore due to new information gained about other players in their absence, they should be dropped.
Adders
Cricketer Of The Year
I thought this was the case though? I could be wrong but wasn't the essence of the message given prior to the tour that, anyone that didn't wish to go could pull out with no black mark against their name, but they do so with the knowledge and risk that any replacements may establish themselves. I don't think there was any guarantees given that they'd hold their spots..........that's a crazy thing to do under any circumstances.