30 Test hundreds

[Shri]

Yeah that's very possible. But it's hardly guaranteed.

And even then, as good as he is, 25+ is tough. ABdV only has 21.

But Abdv is an overrated test bat.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

One other guy I'll throw up is Kraigg Brathwaite. Only on 5 but only just turned 24, doesn't play T20 and probably shouldn't be playing ODI's (so won't suffer as much burnout or become a T20 specialist), and opens the batting so he could have a good shot especially if he starts to really kick on from his exploits in Dubai. Wouldn't bet on it though, especially given how much of a ****up is the WICB.

Tom Latham?? Needs to stop throwing away 50s though 5/11 is not a great conversion rate (plus a lot of 30s/40s)

 

[Furball]

But Abdv is an overrated test bat.

Nothing compared to de Kock.

 

[Spark]

But Abdv is an overrated test bat.

Not gonna disagree

/hides from Jono again

 

[Howe_zat]

Tim Paine

post of the thread

 

[vcs]

Can Rabada get to 400 Test wickets?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Can Rabada get to 400 Test wickets?

quotas will work against him IMO

they'll be loathe to rest him, wanting him to play every match possible and effectively wear him out over the long-term

 

[Spark]

quotas will work against him IMO

they'll be loathe to rest him, wanting him to play every match possible and effectively wear him out over the long-term

Wait, surely they'll want to play him every Test match possible simply because he's a quality bowler? This argument doesn't make much sense to me, if anything quotas would help him.

 

[DriveClub]

Wait, surely they'll want to play him every Test match possible simply because he's a quality bowler? This argument doesn't make much sense to me, if anything quotas would help him.

He meant he will have to play every format which would mean a burnout. Steyn played for so long in test cricket because he rarely played LOIs except in big tournaments. It's hard being a fast bowler nowadays if you play all the formats

 

[Spark]

He meant he will have to play every format which would mean a burnout. Steyn played for so long in test cricket because he rarely played LOIs except in big tournaments. It's hard being a fast bowler nowadays if you play all the formats

Ah okay. Hmm, still not hugely convinced though.

 

[mackembhoy]

Didn't Gilchrist debut at the age of 28 or some such? QDK will get around 20 imo.

Even if South Africa bothered to play test cricket he'd struggle to get 20.

 

[mackembhoy]

quotas will work against him IMO

they'll be loathe to rest him, wanting him to play every match possible and effectively wear him out over the long-term

South Africa hardly play to wear him out. If he was playing the amount of cricket England play you'd have a point.

 

[akilana]

But Abdv is an overrated test bat.

What do you think of fab four?

 

[Shri]

We need to talk about the fat four since the fab four are boring ****s.

1. Herath
2. Mishra
3. Yasir
4. Yuvraj

 

[Furball]

Literally wait for them to play more than 5 Tests before talking about them, come on.

Haha so much this.

On top of his Test career being incredibly young, didn't Renshaw come into the Australia side off 12 or so First Class games?

Temperamentally I think he looks the goods, I was seriously impressed with his first innings in Test cricket when he got through a spell under lights against the South Africans. Didn't get flustered, didn't flash at the ball and play a dumb shot - I know people have said he played and missed a bit, but to my eye it seemed like he was playing inside the line or doing that thing where you draw your bat away that looks much worse - but having the ideal temperament is no help if his technique isn't up to it. There will be a lot of tests for him over the next few months and a lot will depend on whether a) he succeeds and b) how he learms from it should he fail as to whether he has the sort of career morgie is expecting.

Other things could get in the way - he could do a hamstring in the first Test in India going for a quick single and get replaced by a recalled Joe Burns who averages 55 over the next 50 Tests. All of a sudden that's Renshaw at the age of 26 having still only played 5 Tests.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Wait, surely they'll want to play him every Test match possible simply because he's a quality bowler? This argument doesn't make much sense to me, if anything quotas would help him.

It's a theory. If you look at a lot of the best bowlers in the world they tend to get rested quite often. If, theoretically, SA need him to play as much as possible to fill qutoas they may be less likely to rest him.

However they may just rest him anyway and pick some less-qualified players of colour instead for less important games because, well, they're less important games.

 

[vic_orthdox]

He was before my time. I'm probably mixing him up with someone else. Was under the impression his batting rapidly declined towards the end.

Replace Chappell with Gilchrist and you get my point.

Chappell had that run of outs in the latter third of his career with those ducks, but think besides that he was still going reasonably well.

Should also be pointed out that it's worth waiting a few years to see if he keeps it up before nailing him on for virtual ATG keeper-batsman status (which is what 15-20 hundreds would give him, let's not lie). Remember when Matt Prior was going to be the next Gilchrist?

Bit of difference between age though from Prior to QDK.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I think Warner will end in the mid 20s somewhere. He's a gun but he's a gun that relies entirely on his eye. Just like Ponting/Viv/G Chappell he'll fall off a cliff at test level and simply stop making runs at one point.

Ponting is definitely the ultimate example imo. Around 2006-07 it looked like he would get 50 tons easily, even assuming he'd decline. No one really thought the decline would be that bad and drawn out.

 

[stephen]

Ponting is definitely the ultimate example imo. Around 2006-07 it looked like he would get 50 tons easily, even assuming he'd decline. No one really thought the decline would be that bad and drawn out.

He always looked like he was going to come back and hit a big run of form but never really averaged more than low 40s for any of the years after 06/07. It was seriously frustrating watching his average free fall from high 50s to under 52 when he retired.

He had a gigantic run of form between about 00 to 07 where you were always surprised when he didn't hit a ton and averaged around 75 in those years. His poor start and the long tail of his career will forever statistically mask just how monstrous he was in his glory days.

 

[Slifer]

Yeah Ponting was mind boggling good in that period. Haven't seen the like since.