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***Official*** Pakistan in Australia 2016/17

adub

International Captain
oh FFS Heals. Making em play each and every ball is why SOK averages under 24 you dumbass.
 

Tangles

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Good keepers stand up and want the batsman to miss. I bet Wade stands there praying for the batsman to hit it like a sub keeper in a park game.
 

Zinzan

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Absolutely Marsh's bowling should always have been considered his strong suit. A guy with an FC average in the 20s in both disciplines is a bowler who can bat a bit.

Agreed on interested if Cartwright can get it to reverse though. That would make him a handy package.
You made me check cricinfo, I didn't for a second believe Marsh had a FC bowling average south of 30, but it is indeed 28 & that really surprises me. I always thought he was nothing more than a Corey Anderson/Jimmy Neesham-type handy 4th seamer to soak a few overs up at best.
 

Spark

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You made me check cricinfo, I didn't for a second believe Marsh had a FC bowling average south of 30, but it is indeed 28 & that really surprises me. I always thought he was nothing more than a Corey Anderson/Jimmy Neesham-type handy 4th seamer to soak a few overs up at best.
Not like he was just coming on occasionally when conditions were helpful either, 2 wickets a match on average is very solid from your all-rounder.

Now, if he just had a forward defense...
 

vcs

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Mitch Marsh bowled some pretty useful spells in England in the previous Ashes.
 

Prince EWS

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MMarsh's bowling was kind of underrated tbf, at times he was a legit third seamer in terms of quality and output. Looks like Cartwright is going to be a more Shane Watson style of bowler though, which is why I want to know if he can swing it (or, more importantly, reverse it)
When I first saw him bowl he tried to just send down tempting slow-medium outies outside off. He wasn't very successful at that - he's upped his pace fractionally and tried to zero in on the stumps instead which is a good call from him IMO - but movement in the air at the very least is/was something he has in his bag.
 

Prince EWS

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MMarsh's bowling was kind of underrated tbf, at times he was a legit third seamer in terms of quality and output. Looks like Cartwright is going to be a more Shane Watson style of bowler though, which is why I want to know if he can swing it (or, more importantly, reverse it)
I remember at one point we agreed on Skype that he was probably a better bowler than Siddle at the time of the discussion.
 

Gnske

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Reminder with Marsh out the mean head deformities found in our XI has been reduced dramatically.
 

Daemon

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So much respect for SOK compared to Lyon.

Lyon's probably a higher chance for a wicket imo, though I doubt these two will do anything stupid with 5 overs to go.
 

Blocky

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So much respect for SOK compared to Lyon.

Lyon's probably a higher chance for a wicket imo, though I doubt these two will do anything stupid with 5 overs to go.
That's a big thing though, a lot of guys just smack him around and open up the chance of getting out, I'd say at least 60-70% of his wickets come from a batsman looking to hit him to the boundary rather than defend him.
 

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