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***Official*** Pakistan in Australia 2016/17

SteveNZ

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****ing hell Australia, do you receive tax breaks for the amounts you discuss or mention the word declaration? It's like a national past time. And if you don't, you wear the horrid 'un-Australian' tag.
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Sami Aslam is the type of opening batsman I can get behind. His movements are so correct, looks a real talent.
 

Burgey

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If you want a definitive reason why Brisbane is a terrible city, it's Southbank. It's not the only reason, of course, there are a hundred.

But Southbank sums up why it's a rubbish joint. You've got a subtropical city that's on the coast with a zillion beaches in the vicinity, and they build a man made beach on the river which people go to instead.
 

Red

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Why are people saying Smith will be sacked for this declaration if Aust lose?

We've set them almost 500. If we lose from here, it's nothing to do with Smith's declaration. Well it is, but it isn't really, if you know what I mean!
 

Burgey

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I don't know if anyone is saying it apart from me, but to my mind if you decide to give a side a sniff with so long to go in the first test of a three match series and you lose, then questions have to be asked.
 

Crickettragic18

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If you want a definitive reason why Brisbane is a terrible city, it's Southbank. It's not the only reason, of course, there are a hundred.

But Southbank sums up why it's a rubbish joint. You've got a subtropical city that's on the coast with a zillion beaches in the vicinity, and they build a man made beach on the river which people go to instead.
Quite obviously you have never lived in Brisbane, the closest useable beaches are on the Gold Coast or on the East side of the Moreton Bay Islands which cost about $100 to catch a car ferry to.
 

morgieb

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Looking at what the ball is doing now, I can't help but think that having a 5 over dash after dinner would've been more beneficial.
 

Burgey

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That's why it's a crap joint. Why would you build a city there?

Come on, no one likes going to Brisbane. I like a work jaunt better than most, but even I try to get home the same day rather than stay in town overnight. Sure, the Hilton is a good hotel but what's there todo of a night there?
 

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I don't know if anyone is saying it apart from me, but to my mind if you decide to give a side a sniff with so long to go in the first test of a three match series and you lose, then questions have to be asked.
Yeh look fair enough. But we shouldn't lose, and if we do, the blame has to go to the bowlers not making chances and probably dropped catches as well. If it's gonna storm tomorrow as suggested, we had to declare now in such a strong position imo.

On another note, I'm really enjoying Waqar's commentary.
 

NUFAN

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My last comment (for a while) on the declaration. It was the perfect time to declare if this was a Sheffield Shield match. i.e. a 4 dayer, not 5.

Bird has been good this Test. He needed to be with Sayers in such good form.
 

harsh.ag

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Yeh look fair enough. But we shouldn't lose, and if we do, the blame has to go to the bowlers not making chances and probably dropped catches as well. If it's gonna storm tomorrow as suggested, we had to declare now in such a strong position imo.
Bowlers and fielders getting the blame for not being able to defend 490 - valid.
Captain getting the blame for declaring with > 2 days remaining - also valid.

If the storm was a concern, they should have enforced a follow on without question. Can't have it all.
 

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Captain getting the blame for declaring with > 2 days remaining - also valid.
Really? When the most anyone has ever chased to win a test is 418, and we have 490 in the bank?

Only 4 times in test history has a team chased 400 plus to win a test.

I don't think you can blame a declaration logically here. Especially if rain is forecast (even if it doesnt eventuate).
 

harsh.ag

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Really? When the most anyone has ever chased to win a test is 418, and we have 490 in the bank?

Only 4 times in test history has a team chased 400 plus to win a test.

I don't think you can blame a declaration logically here. Especially if rain is forecast (even if it doesnt eventuate).
Look, it's about maximizing the chances of victory. Sure they should win. But I don't think it's logical to argue that having 550+ as a target is the same as having 490 is the same as having 420 (because of the record chase being 418) in terms of how you assess probabilities with the opposition having 200+ overs to bat?
 

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