***Official*** Pakistan in New Zealand 2016/17

[Flem274*]

Munro isn't an ideal #5 because he doesn't adjust his game like Baz could but no issues with him getting a chance at #7 if the structure of the team allowed it (and for most of his career it has been Baz-more balanced allrounder-Watling in the 5-7 bracket).

I think/hope/pray he's a better batsman than the one who got shown up by SA on a tough deck on dayboo but I think he's a 30 average batsman and 40-50 average bowler.

 

[Zinzan]

Munro isn't an ideal #5 because he doesn't adjust his game like Baz could but no issues with him getting a chance at #7 if the structure of the team allowed it (and for most of his career it has been Baz-more balanced allrounder-Watling in the 5-7 bracket).

I think/hope/pray he's a better batsman than the one who got shown up by SA on a tough deck on dayboo but I think he's a 30 average batsman and 40-50 average bowler.

Lol @ you still chastising Munro for his 1 Test against a team that embarrassed all our batsmen on that tour, including KW.

Amazing how many chances others have been allowed to look like *****, yet you only want to give this guy two innings over 3 years ago when he basically has the best domestic record in the country.

Re McCullum, let's not pretend he curbed his game that often either. Probably 3-4 innings in his last 3 years (most notably his triple), The rest were all about intent, hitting sixes & entertaining the crowd. I think Munro is the perfect replacement.

 

[Flem274*]

that's not what i'm saying at all mr objective middle ground two sides to an argument man

 

[Zinzan]

that's not what i'm saying at all mr objective middle ground two sides to an argument man

You made the distinction that he couldn't adjust his game like McCullum, when Baz hardly ever batted any other way except full throttle when batting at 5.

 

[Flem274*]

i have never seen or read a match report involving colin munro batting for a million hours or shutting up shop for the draw, or even lazing along accumulating, like mccullum did when required.

 

[Zinzan]

i have never seen or read a match report involving colin munro batting for a million hours or shutting up shop for the draw, or even lazing along accumulating, like mccullum did when required.

How many times outside of that 1 Indian series did McCullum ever do what you just described batting at 5 in those last 3-4 years?

 

[Blocky]

i have never seen or read a match report involving colin munro batting for a million hours or shutting up shop for the draw, or even lazing along accumulating, like mccullum did when required.

To be honest, I'd settle for a guy who could come spank 50-60 runs quickly every three innings adverse to the production we're currently getting from 4,5,6. We've got a good rear guarder in Watling and Santner can also play a rear guarder when required.

 

[Moss]

I do feel Anderson could make it as a test batsman, he's shown the ability to somehow make decent scores even when not looking comfortable. The problem is he rarely seems to be able to string two games together; since he debuted NZ have played 30 odd tests and he's appeared in all of 13, and it's stunted his development as a batsman.

Munro, I really don't know. A great eye and superb ball striking ability no doubt, but whenever I've seen him at the international level his shot selection has been atrocious. Still, I think an extended run in the one day side would add to NZ's options and give us an idea of how he might go at test level.

 

[Zinzan]

Munro, I really don't know. A great eye and superb ball striking ability no doubt, but whenever I've seen him at the international level his shot selection has been atrocious..

Most batsmen premeditate in T20s & Munro's no exception, & yes it does look ugly when you get it wrong. I think he plays his best cricket when he stays still & sees ball/hits ball. I'm not knocking the door down for his selection, but I do believe the guy with the best domestic record in the country, & who has been exposed to international cricket & touring, makes as good a case as any for that vacant number 5 spot that Nicolls & Ronchi have been occupying. It's not like we've got these all these other alternatives either.

 

[SteveNZ]

Most batsmen premeditate in T20s & Munro's no exception, & yes it does look ugly when you get it wrong. I think he plays his best cricket when he stays still & sees ball/hits ball. I'm not knocking the door down for his selection, but I do believe the guy with the best domestic record in the country, & who has been exposed to international cricket & touring, makes as good a case as any for that vacant number 5 spot that Nicolls & Ronchi have been occupying. It's not like we've got these all these other alternatives either.

100%. There's no sense or fairness in saying he's prone to rash shots in international cricket, when he's playing the short forms and predominantly T20s. If you average nigh on 48 in FC cricket in NZ, have two double hundreds, a good conversion rate, have already been exposed to international cricket etc you have to be picked. I fear his solitary Test hangs over him somewhat which is absolute BS. I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, he's a better player than Henry Nicholls every day of the week.

 

[SeamUp]

You guys happy with Dean Brownlie ?

I know batting stocks are in short supply but he hasn't played a test for 3 years and averages 29 and the reason why he hasn't been called back sooner is that he hasn't been piling up domestic runs.

 

[SeamUp]

Pakistan are probably going to bring in Sharjeel Khan and drop Azhar Ali to 3.

I would just do a straight swop and bring in Rizwan.

 

[Blocky]

You guys happy with Dean Brownlie ?

I know batting stocks are in short supply but he hasn't played a test for 3 years and averages 29 and the reason why he hasn't been called back sooner is that he hasn't been piling up domestic runs.

Not really, but considering he's likely a one test replacement for the diabetic one; I don't mind it. I think ultimately to select someone like Popli or Young when the timing means they're either playing one test, or replacing another newcomer in Nicholls isn't right. The only other option would have been Ronchi which I think would've been preferable.

 

[SeamUp]

Not really, but considering he's likely a one test replacement for the diabetic one; I don't mind it. I think ultimately to select someone like Popli or Young when the timing means they're either playing one test, or replacing another newcomer in Nicholls isn't right. The only other option would have been Ronchi which I think would've been preferable.

I suppose you could look at it like that. It may be viewed as short-termism but wins are important now.

With the blackcaps in a rebuild of their batting it would be nice to find another main-stay now that McCullum has left.

 

[Moss]

You guys happy with Dean Brownlie ?

I know batting stocks are in short supply but he hasn't played a test for 3 years and averages 29 and the reason why he hasn't been called back sooner is that he hasn't been piling up domestic runs.

I think he's a useful squad member because he can bat anywhere in the order and has fronted up against good attacks in the past. Though unlikely to do well against spin focused attacks obviously.

 

[Blocky]

I think we're in reasonable shape batting wise, realistically we've got eight potential middle order batsmen that can come into the side the moment they string together a bit of success at NZ/NZ A level. I'd almost argue the best thing at the moment is that we're forced to go to two or more of the below if Taylor's eye issue continues.

Munro, Popli, Young, Neesham, Anderson, Nicholls, De Grandhomme, Bruce

You've got Raval and Latham who should be given the season as openers, and hopefully given more cricket you'll see Watling return to his best. If Santner continues to improve like I think he will then he'll lock down either #6 or #8 depending on match composition for many seasons to come, but NZ selectors have got to give the guys a chance. We've seen with Latham and Raval that young talent with good domestic returns are worth a punt.

The team is kind of ****ed over at the moment by a bunch of non performing senior pros though... when you don't have Taylor and Watling performing, combined with Southee and Boult not being at their best, but their legacy/history means you can't drop them and bring in form like you would for most other positions, you don't go places.

I'm hoping given this time next year, we're talking about a team that looks more like this

1. Latham
2. Raval
3. Williamson
4. Young
5. Popli
6. De Grandhomme / Munro / Neesham / Anderson
7. Watling
8. Santner
9. Kuggelign*
10. Wagner
11. Boult.

That's a young side that we can build a solid future with for the next three to five seasons, who all have the right sort of attitude for improvement. Also in that team, you're starting to groom other captains like Young, Munro, Popli, Latham.

 

[Flem274*]

that team would get smashed unless young, popli and the allrounders pull something out of their arses very soon

did you make kugglejuggle skipper or is the asterix to do with his off field activities?

 

[Black_Warrior]

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Rain forecast for Day 1 through to Day 4

 

[Athlai]

Hamilton Weather - NZ Weather Forecast from MetService.com

Rain forecast for Day 1 through to Day 4

Don't trust NZ weather reports that far into the future. It'll likely rain but it may just be showers at night or sun showers. November-December isn't generally prolonged rain.

 

[Blocky]

that team would get smashed unless young, popli and the allrounders pull something out of their arses very soon

did you make kugglejuggle skipper or is the asterix to do with his off field activities?

The latter.