***Official*** England in India 2016/17

[DriveClub]

RIP Irish Test cricket hopes.

Good point, ban only for English team

 

[OverratedSanity]

RIP Indian Cricket

 

[Howe_zat]

Word on sky that Anderson is bowling in the nets.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

So if we keep getting on top of Mishra who will India pick instead if they want to continue with 3 spinners? Mishra has looked rubbish so far, makes our spinners look half decent.

 

[anil1405]

So if we keep getting on top of Mishra who will India pick instead if they want to continue with 3 spinners? Mishra has looked rubbish so far, makes our spinners look half decent.

Good chance they will change the nature of the pitch for 2nd test instead of replacing Mishra with another spinner.

 

[Daemon]

So if we keep getting on top of Mishra who will India pick instead if they want to continue with 3 spinners? Mishra has looked rubbish so far, makes our spinners look half decent.

Kedar Jadhav

 

[fredfertang]

Word on sky that Anderson is bowling in the nets.

At Hameed, so he'll soon get bored of that

 

[Jono]

I'd say 400-450 is par, but India have played 5 bowlers, and scoreboard pressure is a massive thing in test cricket. Add the fact England have a beastly lower order so they could easily get another 150, and India's top order is going to need to bat very very well, notwithstanding I think this is very flat.

 

[Howe_zat]

400-450 par barely exists in real cricket. And we've seen a bit of turn and reverse swing. It's a high scoring pitch but 450 up front always puts you in the driving seat.

 

[grecian]

Ah right.

Yeah, maybe, but Stokes and Bairstow had a license to do this based on the platform set up by Root's innings which was much more conventional.

Yes, pretty sure he didn't play a lone hand....

 

[Jono]

400-450 par barely exists in real cricket. And we've seen a bit of turn and reverse swing. It's a high scoring pitch but 450 up front always puts you in the driving seat.

Don't think anyone would suggest the opposite.

Dunno what real cricket means.

 

[Howe_zat]

Yes, pretty sure he didn't play a lone hand....

Yeah but I didn't see most of Moeen's innings so I didn't want to pass comment on how conventional/aggressive it was.

 

[Howe_zat]

Don't think anyone would suggest the opposite.

Dunno what real cricket means.

As in cricket that's been played as oppose to just speculating on the here and now.

I think the idea of a 'par' score should be something that gives you a 50% chance of winning the match or getting a first innings lead, assuming all else is equal. I can't see 450 being that kind of score. The most I'll stretch to is 400 and only then for a complete highway.

 

[Jono]

As in cricket that's been played as oppose to just speculating on the here and now.

I cannot make sense of this statement.

But I do agree with the rest of what you said. I think this is pretty flat though, time will tell to see what England can do on it.,

Second innings will be interesting ,whether it breaks up.

 

[Daemon]

Jono what do you have to say about Kohli setting a poor precedent on catching in this test?

 

[OverratedSanity]

Most of the catches have going down of Yadav's bowling haven't they? Poor bugger.

 

[Daemon]

Most of the catches have going down of Yadav's bowling haven't they? Poor bugger.

Four to be precise. Imagine the tears if the caught and bowled wasn't given as well.

 

[Stapel]

Apart from what is a par score, the thing the has me wondering the most is how fast this pitch will detoriate.

 

[Jono]

Jono what do you have to say about Kohli setting a poor precedent on catching in this test?

nothing

 

[Stapel]

I think the idea of a 'par' score should be something that gives you a 50% chance of winning the match or getting a first innings lead, assuming all else is equal.

I've alway felt that a par score is when each and every player does his average job. So, setting a par score, batting first on a detoriating pitch, is actually giving a 60% chance of winning.

I do realise this discussion is not getting anywhere.....