cricketing narratives that aren't true

[Shady Slim]

so here's another shady slim classic thread that should already exist but i don't search

thread because of the comment that pakistan's batting is likely their strong suit now even though the narrative is they can only bowl and can't bat at all

plucky kiwis another one

now they just suck in general (na but they're not plucky their world cup run was genuinely good cricket)

 

[Shri]

That all pitches in India are rank turners. Usually, the first one is and in a long series, most pitches offer only slight assistance to the spinners as the series progresses. But the psychological damage is usually done in the first game and teams get routed because they are mentally fragile and are on edge against simple balls from spinners. Only SA got the dustbowl treatment recently because they had genuinely awesome batsmen and below average spinners(Piedt and Tahir would have sucked on regular Indian tracks but their fast bowlers would have routed us).

 

[Shady Slim]

imo that's a top quality post

especially jadeja is a master of the "this ball could do ANYTHING lol jokes it's straight"

 

[mr_mister]

here's one - England had bad players in the '90s

 

[Burgey]

Fourth innings runs being somehow more important than others.

 

[Daemon]

Rohit sharma is lazy

 

[Burgey]

Fourth innings runs being somehow more important than others.

Especially in T20s

 

[Shri]

Especially in T20s

 

[indiaholic]

Rohit sharma is lazy

Yeah.. This just exists for narrative purposes.Did we have a similar narrative for Yuvraj?

 

[cnerd123]

- Indian batsmen play spin well
- BD cricketers lack talent

Getting two obvious ones out of the way

 

[marc71178]

here's one - England had bad players in the '90s

Except they did.

 

[GIMH]

James Anderson is rubbish if it's sunny

 

[mr_mister]

Except they did.

at this point i could literally say the sky is blue and you'd disagree with me. you have a personal issue with me and have for a while so i can't take you seriously anymore

 

[smash84]

at this point i could literally say the sky is blue and you'd disagree with me. you have a personal issue with me and have for a while so i can't take you seriously anymore

well mr mr England were quite crap in the 90s. A lot of other teams were good but England had the likes of Ian Salisbury, Robert Croft, Matthew Maynard, the hollioake brothers, dominic cork. Their best bowlers were decent but nowhere near world class. Andrew Caddick, botham was finished, Gough, Fraser. So how can you say that is myth?

 

[mr_mister]

i feel they had a bunch of good, "world class" players they just unfortunately played in an era where a lot of other teams were littered with ATGs

 

[marc71178]

No, your point is wrong.

England in the 90s were dreadful and had a heck of a lot of very bad players. That's nothing about you posting it - if anyone had tried to claim otherwise they'd have gotten the same response.

 

[OverratedSanity]

- You have to play your natural game, especially if you want to save a match.

- India have no chance of winning on greentops overseas / foreign teams have no chance of winning on rank turners in the subcontinent

- Steyn has clearly slowed down in pace after his recent injuries

- Rohit Sharma can change a game in a session.

 

[Shri]

well mr mr England were quite crap in the 90s. A lot of other teams were good but England had the likes of Ian Salisbury, Robert Croft, Matthew Maynard, the hollioake brothers, dominic cork. Their best bowlers were decent but nowhere near world class. Andrew Caddick, botham was finished, Gough, Fraser. So how can you say that is myth?

Gough was a great workhorse kinda bowler. His talent would have been appreciated more if he hadn't played at a time when Donald, Ambrose, Akram, Younis etc were also playing test cricket.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Gough had the ***iest bowling action ever.

 

[mr_mister]

and on that note, and I know this is said a lot, but Atherton, Stewart, Thorpe and even Hick/Ramps would have had much better looking records if they didn't have to face a country with a bowling God like every other series. They only got a break against New Zealand and Zimbabwe, every other team had at least 1 insanely good bowler(and most had at least 2) the likes of which haven't been seen since the '90s with 1 or 2 exceptions