**Official** England in Bangladesh 2016

[YorksLanka]

surprise surprise Stokes at it again..guy just doesn't know when to give up- before someone says that he was defending his team mate, they are all adults and he doesn't need to step in for anyone..

 

[Burgey]

Needs approval from Burgey - chairman of name selector panel

Has to go back to the person on the forum who gave the original nickname for permission.

 

[Burgey]

As for the argy-bargy, if you get in a bloke's face when he's out, it can lead to things getting out of hand if there's a reaction from him, so I do t see a problem with them stamping down on it tbh.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

As for the argy-bargy, if you get in a bloke's face when he's out, it can lead to things getting out of hand if there's a reaction from him, so I do t see a problem with them stamping down on it tbh.

Yeah, good job it was a cool player like Buttler. God knows what might happen if a Stokes, Warner or Kohli had that done in their faces. One of them may well swing the bat at someone which nobody would want to see.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Vaughan,

Let’s not forget also this England team are hardly angels themselves on the field. They are vocal. They play with spirit and in that first game they would have chirped at Bangladesh’s players, which is why it was all stored up and boiled over on Sunday.

Also remember Buttler fields behind the stumps. He probably gave them plenty in the first game and again on Sunday when they did not score many in their innings. If you give it out you have to take it back.

Also we are not the most humble nation when we do well. We do swagger about a bit so teams will want to upset them. If I was involved with the Bangladesh team I would be trying to wind them up on Wednesday. That would be my team-talk. Do everything you can to upset them. England have two or three fiery characters so rile them and see if they fold under the pressure.

This where England will be tested over the next couple of months on the sub-continent. It is the first time in this environment as a group in 50-over and Test cricket. In the World Twenty20 final earlier this year they allowed themselves to be goaded by Marlon Samuels. He ultimately had the winning moment. The one thing England have to work on is the discipline side of their mentality in such situations.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2...best-response/

England are going to get plenty too when they visit India next. Maynot be the case like unfortunate events folded in the last odi but they will be at the receiving end plenty. Good exercise for this young team how they react under pressure when such things happen

 

[OverratedSanity]

Also remember Buttler fields behind the stumps. He probably gave them plenty in the first game and again on Sunday when they did not score many in their innings. If you give it out you have to take it back.

How do you know this? Whenever I've seen buttler on the field, he seems the quiet sort.

 

[Burgey]

Whether someone says something to you is, in this instance, less important than how and where it's said. I remember England loling at Watson on the field for a ridiculous review as he walked off, and blokes saying things to him. God knows he said enough to other people too. These are just a couple of examples of thousands of times things are said on the field. Let's be honest, it gets boring out there at times between deliveries. It really does seriously escalate things if you get up and say the same things in someone's face though. Let's be honest, we all hate a space invader. If you're carrying on at someone from 30 metres away, it's far less incendiary than if you do it from a meter or so away.

That doesn't mean, of course, that umpires should stand idly by if they're of a view that stuff being said is OTT, no matter how far away the protagonists are.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

How do you know this? Whenever I've seen buttler on the field, he seems the quiet sort.

I dont, the armchair expert vaughan knows lol

 

[Adders]

Vaughan is a deadset ****head and anything he says should be immediately disregarded.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Lol'd at the Bairstow/Stokes/Tamim "handshake" drama

If anything it seemed like it was Bairstow deliberately going in to bump shoulders with little Tamim

 

[Flem274*]

Haha that is woeful. If that was Australia, India or England people would be slamming the **** out of them.

bangladesh have been a team of chirpy little ****s for ages, just like their fans (hello there energetic)

they're little kittens playing at being tigers

 

[Black_Warrior]

The thing about Bangladesh cricket and their most vocal online fans (read trolls) is that their behaviour is no different to any of the other ill behaved cricket teams and fans, what's interesting is that they make a very conscious effort to emulate that kind of behaviour. They feel like 'we're newbies, let's just emulate the big bullies we've grown up watching and getting bullied by'. Bangladeshi cricketers have been aggressive for a while now and they don't shy away from having a word or getting in your face. But for the ROW, it's a big deal because it's Bangladesh who is doing it and therein lies their own prejudices and biases.
I remember when Shakib and Wahab had a tiff last year, Ramiz wrote an article on Bangladesh cricket and his main point was 'wow even these Bangladeshis are staring back at us, look how far we have fallen as a team'

To counter Jono's point, Indians, Australians and English teams have behaved like this since forever. Sometimes they get fined, sometimes they don't. No one gets surprised or no one reacts "OMG the Aussies gave us a send off". It's when this team which no one really pays attention to at most times engages in this that everyone gets shocked. And they are only doing this for some sort of attention, that no one pays any to them which whether rightly or not, they feel they have earned.

 

[indiaholic]

The thing about Bangladesh cricket and their most vocal online fans (read trolls) is that their behaviour is no different to any of the other ill behaved cricket teams and fans, what's interesting is that they make a very conscious effort to emulate that kind of behaviour. They feel like 'we're newbies, let's just emulate the big bullies we've grown up watching and getting bullied by'. Bangladeshi cricketers have been aggressive for a while now and they don't shy away from having a word or getting in your face. But for the ROW, it's a big deal because it's Bangladesh who is doing it and therein lies their own prejudices and biases.
I remember when Shakib and Wahab had a tiff last year, Ramiz wrote an article on Bangladesh cricket and his main point was 'wow even these Bangladeshis are staring back at us, look how far we have fallen as a team'

To counter Jono's point, Indians, Australians and English teams have behaved like this since forever. Sometimes they get fined, sometimes they don't. No one gets surprised or no one reacts "OMG the Aussies gave us a send off". It's when this team which no one really pays attention to at most times engages in this that everyone gets shocked. And they are only doing this for some sort of attention, that no one pays any to them which whether rightly or not, they feel they have earned.

Pretty much this. They wouldn't be as irritating if they were very good.

 

[Daemon]

Mortaza WAG.

Probably going to regret this though after a few more come his way.

 

[indiaholic]

Probably grew up watching old games where players would be surrounded by fans at every milestone. Realized this was his only chance to have that experience and wanted to soak in the moment. Don't see what's so impressive.

 

[honestbharani]

The thing about Bangladesh cricket and their most vocal online fans (read trolls) is that their behaviour is no different to any of the other ill behaved cricket teams and fans, what's interesting is that they make a very conscious effort to emulate that kind of behaviour. They feel like 'we're newbies, let's just emulate the big bullies we've grown up watching and getting bullied by'. Bangladeshi cricketers have been aggressive for a while now and they don't shy away from having a word or getting in your face. But for the ROW, it's a big deal because it's Bangladesh who is doing it and therein lies their own prejudices and biases.
I remember when Shakib and Wahab had a tiff last year, Ramiz wrote an article on Bangladesh cricket and his main point was 'wow even these Bangladeshis are staring back at us, look how far we have fallen as a team'

To counter Jono's point, Indians, Australians and English teams have behaved like this since forever. Sometimes they get fined, sometimes they don't. No one gets surprised or no one reacts "OMG the Aussies gave us a send off". It's when this team which no one really pays attention to at most times engages in this that everyone gets shocked. And they are only doing this for some sort of attention, that no one pays any to them which whether rightly or not, they feel they have earned.

All good but the issue seems to be that the majority of the BD fans and players seem to be of this disposition, whether it is natural or an act. Even in the worst Indian, Australian, English and Pakistani sides in terms of behaviour, there were always some good men there who could be relied upon by the officials to send a message through etc. I am really not sure if anyone in this current BD side is like that. Being aggressive and in your face is one thing, these guys are just carrying it to hyper levels for no apparent reason. It is understandable when teams with history and players with history sledge each other, BD just come out every game looking to pick a fight, it looks like.. Mustafizur was doing it on his debut FFS and he was not even 19 then if I am not wrong. They just have the worst ideas on what being a successful cricketer is all about in their heads and it is gonna keep biting them AFAIC if they can't sort it out.

 

[indiaholic]

Now that is wrong. Have you seen the Fizz pick a fight?

 

[honestbharani]

Yeah.. he was intentionally getting in the way of batsmen running between the wickets and even after 3 or 4 times that Indian batsmen told him about it, he kept doing it. Did you not see that game?

 

[indiaholic]

Yeah.. he was intentionally getting in the way of batsmen running between the wickets and even after 3 or 4 times that Indian batsmen told him about it, he kept doing it. Did you not see that game?

Missed that game, at least I have zero recollection of it.. But if true, WAC.

 

[vcs]

Meh.. they can be annoying ****s as long as they continue losing to India and beating the other teams.