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***Official*** New Zealand in India 2016

honestbharani

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Neesham
Santner
Wagner
Henry
Boult

to be the NZ lower order at home?


Think NZ should just go with the following line up for their home tests


Latham
Watling
KW (c)
Taylor
Anderson
Ronchi (wk)
Neesham
Santner
Henry
Wagner/Southee
Boult


And they can decide who keeps based on who has batted longer or less tired etc.. Certainly much less to lose with that iknd of a line up and you are covered for most spots in the conditions you expect in NZ.
 

honestbharani

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BTW, has anyone else noticed Bhajji's waaaahhs about the wickets? Apparently he said his tally would have been "something else" had he gotten such pitches to bowl on (referring to this Indore pitch) and that he only had such tracks "twice" in his career... Your tally would have been something else had you ever had the guts to toss the ball up you ****ing ****... Afraid of losing his spot and wanting to do just enough to keep himself in the side is what brought an early end to his career AFAIC. Becoming a bitter old man like Bedi already.. SMH...
 

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Bhajji's Test bowling really went to **** over the last few years of his career. Real shame.
 

straw man

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Javed: "Biggest gain for NZ in this series is Mitchell Santner and Mark Henry. Biggest Loss Ross Taylor surprisingly."
Well done to that Mark Henry loving Aussie (Nate? aka Javed) for getting a comment on cricinfo :happy:
 

straw man

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Only saw highlights of yesterday. Geez Taylor looks awful - never properly forward or back and just prodding and hoping. Guptill and Jeets very unlucky, though regarding Guptill you can call me one of the haterz all you want but this clearly does not change his test batting future in my books. He was dropped at gully of course too. Though what's more likely than a hundred to get him another test series? Probably a 72 and then a very unlucky dismissal. Doubt his next innings will be his last.

Love Santner and Neesham batting together. Eight is really too low for Santner to be batting but it may have to do for the meantime. Between Boult, Southee, Henry, Wagner, Jeets, Santner, Neesham and Anderson there are lots of worthy bowling+allrounder permutations for future series.
 

Daemon

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Taylor's doing a Younis in England imo. He did the same in Australia. **** will double ton up in the next innings imo.
 

Zinzan

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As much as I can't stand jonbrooks, it's approaching the point where he's got a point about Taylor. He's been awful this tour and in SA, and you can't help but worry that his eye-sight problems are starting to compound.
Funny, I suggested his hand/eye started deteriorating 3-4 years back when he lost his T20 hitting mojo and starting shelling the odd catch at slip, which he hardly ever did in his first 4-5 years in internationals. I distinctly recall you & a few others ridiculing me for the suggestion. :p

There's no doubt in my mind that whilst Taylor's concentration is better than it was at the start of his career, his hand/eye started to deteriorate (marginally) in his late 20s, this as opposed to most batsmen who generally face that deterioration in their mid-30s. This is by no means suggesting Taylor doesn't still have a great eye compared to us mortals, only that relatively speaking he doesn't see it like he did in what I think was his pomp .. example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6k_5vooJdE
 

Daemon

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BTW, has anyone else noticed Bhajji's waaaahhs about the wickets? Apparently he said his tally would have been "something else" had he gotten such pitches to bowl on (referring to this Indore pitch) and that he only had such tracks "twice" in his career... Your tally would have been something else had you ever had the guts to toss the ball up you ****ing ****... Afraid of losing his spot and wanting to do just enough to keep himself in the side is what brought an early end to his career AFAIC. Becoming a bitter old man like Bedi already.. SMH...
What an idiot. He failed to mention the games he did play during Ashwin/Jadeja/Ojha's dominance and was easily the worst spinner from 3.
 

morgieb

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TBF to Bhajji, the wickets ten years ago were far flatter in India then what they are now. He pretty much declined rapidly as soon as the wickets became more bowler-friendly.
 

Contra

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Yeah I think Bhajji picked the wrong pitch to make the kind of comment he did, but there is no denying that the pitches in the last 4-5 years have been a lot more bowler friendly than those in the mid-late 2000's when India became #1 for the first time. I'm not trying to take anything away from Ashwin or any other spinner, because you still have to go out there and take wickets, but the late 2000's were some of the absolute flattest wickets out there without a doubt.

The SL tour in 09, SA in 2010 and NZ in 2010 were some of the flattest pitches at home. I remember Bhajji had to work his ass off to get that 5-fer at Edens against SA because the pitch simply wouldn't break even on day 5. It was kinda ridiculous lol.
 

cnerd123

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Bhajji at his best was a spinner who took the pitch put of the equation. Great flight, drift, an amazing doosra, and could extract bounce from any surface.

For him to complain about the surfaces he played on kinda undermines all the attributes and skills that made him such a great offspinner. He didn't decline because the pitches went flat, he just declined because he forgot how to bowl like his best. His five fer in SA towards the end of his career was so great and such and abberation because he rarely bowled like that at that time.
 

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