CricAddict
International Coach
Good catch. He did that in those 2 double centuries he hit in ODIs and in every single good innings he has played.
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***Official*** New Zealand in India 2016
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NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Yeah our bowling has been good. We just struggle getting rid of the tail. Frustrating af.
Not like we're going to win but if there's an outside chance we need to get the last two wickets for like 20 runs.
Not like we're going to win but if there's an outside chance we need to get the last two wickets for like 20 runs.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
So Rohit is going to go down as India's Guptill albeit with an ego & possibly an average to reflect he never had to face the brand new ball?
Athlai
Not Terrible
Have to give Rohit some slight credit TBF. Remove his runs and India would be in a whole mess of trouble.
Also is anywhere else moderately concerned about Latham? Has looked a bit average this year. Just had a look and against teams that aren't Zimbabwe for 2016
194 @ 17.64
2 50s
1 10-50 score
7 scores under 10
We've had a pretty difficult time against Australia and South Africa but really expect more from Latham.
Hell even Guptill who is having his second worst year in a career of bad years against the top teams has gone past 10 5 times for his 130 @ 13
Also is anywhere else moderately concerned about Latham? Has looked a bit average this year. Just had a look and against teams that aren't Zimbabwe for 2016
194 @ 17.64
2 50s
1 10-50 score
7 scores under 10
We've had a pretty difficult time against Australia and South Africa but really expect more from Latham.
Hell even Guptill who is having his second worst year in a career of bad years against the top teams has gone past 10 5 times for his 130 @ 13
Zinzan
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Latham's dismissals have been worrying me more than just merely his poor numbers. This last dismissal was a big concern, It was a regulation ball swinging from off-to leg, it wasn't like it was late reverse swing. A test standard opener should be able to cover those.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
It's certainly troubling, especially some of his dismissals, but he did get a 50 last match in a superb partnership with KW. He's got 3 more innings in India and a plethora of home games to come right before I'd start getting worried.
Athlai
Not Terrible
I said moderately concerned, not worried.
The full breakdown of NZ batsman concern levels is below, I've included our bats on current form for reference:
Big Daddy, Big Daddy (KW)
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They're Bossing It
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Test Class (Watling)
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- (Ronchi)
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Moderately Concerned (Latham)
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Concerned
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Marshall Twin A
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Worried (Nicholls)
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Marshall Twin B
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- (Guptill)
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Pinga was the pits
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Athlai
Not Terrible
Is the obvious candidate Luke Ronchi?
I've been worried about him for 12 months or more. For the amount of ability and technical proficiency he looks like he has, his record is heading towards 'no better than any other NZ opener we've tried' territory. We desperately need him to start scoring runs for us to beat good sides.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Nah he's put in a lot more decent performances than the NBTAOOs of recent times. The three 50s in the Windies, twin UAE centuries, and 80 odd when we were 2 for not many in the England test we won. These outstrip any other openers 'achievements', bar McCullum, since Richardson (unless you want to count Fulton's two centuries vs England or Rutherfords 171 on debut).
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NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
KW; Ronchi's sample size too small aws.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Was trying to find you in the AFL thread but haven't seen you there yet. #woofwoof
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
It's been a low-scoring 2016 for Latham, however Australia's new ball attack, South Africa in South Africa and then India in India with the spinners on early are three of the most difficult challenges you could imagine for a young batsman.
He's usually so well organised that I don't doubt he'll improve and do better next time he comes up against such challenges.
He's usually so well organised that I don't doubt he'll improve and do better next time he comes up against such challenges.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Latham's average for the year particularly suffered from scoring 8 runs at 2.66 in South Africa, bearing in mind that one of those dismissals was an unlucky caught behind decision. He's hardly the first NZer to struggle on their first tour of SA though - Williamson and Taylor the other recent examples.
First tour of South Africa
Crowe, Nov 1994, age 32 : 134 at 22.33
Taylor, Nov 2007, age 23: 44 at 11.00
Williamson, Jan 2013, age 22: 43 at 10.75
(Fleming bucks the trend by averaging 38 in that 94/95 series)
First tour of South Africa
Crowe, Nov 1994, age 32 : 134 at 22.33
Taylor, Nov 2007, age 23: 44 at 11.00
Williamson, Jan 2013, age 22: 43 at 10.75
(Fleming bucks the trend by averaging 38 in that 94/95 series)
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Ouch, below James Marshall!
There are 20 other openers over the last couple of decades in that zone either side of Guptill too.
Athlai
Not Terrible
I think Guppy is probably a smidge better than that but his current form is poor. Has certainly been pretty unfortunate at times, but he isn't really good enough to carry with that misfortune. A 100 in the second innings would catapault him immediately to Marshall Twin A - Worried.