*Official* Pakistan in England and Ireland 2016

[grecian]

Yeah, Dawson doing himself absolutely no favours here.

Never sure why Parry has been ditched from the England set-up, not everyone has to be all-rounders.

 

[91Jmay]

Deserve to lose this for the arrogance of making so many changes. Rotating seamers I can see but this amount of changes smacks of a hubris I don't like.

 

[grecian]

Deserve to lose this for the arrogance of making so many changes. Rotating seamers I can see but this amount of changes smacks of a hubris I don't like.

I agree, unless there are injuries we don't know about this does seem like taking the piss from England.

 

[a massive zebra]

Bit of an indication that while our first choice spinners have problems the well is not exactly overflowing.

While I wouldn't necessarily disagree, Dawson isn't even close to being one of the best spinners in county cricket. He has been selected because of England's obsession with spinners who can bat.

 

[Niall]

While I wouldn't necessarily disagree, Dawson isn't even close to being one of the best spinners in county cricket. He has been selected because of England's obsession with spinners who can bat.

According to the Daily Mail (I know) Dawson will be in the squad for India and Bangladesh, horrific image this guy bowling to those batsman, but heh on the plus side he may add 20 or so runs. so swings and roundabouts

Liam Dawson set to win spinners' race for selection for England Test tours to Bangladesh and India | Daily Mail Online

 

[grecian]

According to the Daily Mail (I know) Dawson will be in the squad for India and Bangladesh, horrific image this guy bowling to those batsman, but heh on the plus side he may add 20 or so runs. so swings and roundabouts

Liam Dawson set to win spinners' race for selection for England Test tours to Bangladesh and India | Daily Mail Online

Would genuinely rather have Samit.

 

[Pothas]

Would be amazed if he is in the Test squads. He has had a brilliant season in one day cricket so I think England looking at him as a back up for Moeen is totally fair enough but being picked in the Test squad would just be so weird.

 

[ImpatientLime]

the decision to leave out rashid is mind boggling.

he's neither.....

a) a guy who's played too much international cricket this summer

or...

b) a guy who's not in need of more international exposure

such a weird decision.

 

[Howe_zat]

Would be amazed if he is in the Test squads. He has had a brilliant season in one day cricket so I think England looking at him as a back up for Moeen is totally fair enough but being picked in the Test squad would just be so weird.

Would it be more or less bad than selecting Richard Dawson?

 

[a massive zebra]

According to the Daily Mail (I know) Dawson will be in the squad for India and Bangladesh, horrific image this guy bowling to those batsman, but heh on the plus side he may add 20 or so runs. so swings and roundabouts

Liam Dawson set to win spinners' race for selection for England Test tours to Bangladesh and India | Daily Mail Online

The very last sentence of that article gives a great overview of England's attitude to this matter. It is interesting to see no mention of arguably the most successful spinner of the year, Ollie Rayner, who has played a key role in Middlesex's title charge. Given they already have Stokes, Woakes and Ali to get runs down the order, I think it might make a little sense to pick a spinner who is likely to get wickets in spinning conditions!

 

[Howe_zat]

The very last sentence of that article gives a great overview of England's attitude to this matter. It is interesting to see no mention of arguably the most successful spinner of the year, Ollie Rayner, who has played a key role in Middlesex's title charge. Given they already have Stokes, Woakes and Ali to get runs down the order, I think it might make a little sense to pick a spinner who is likely to get wickets in spinning conditions!

Rayner is also an allrounder, hasn't helped him.

Hacks just cbf to think beyond who's played in an England shirt recently

 

[grecian]

The very last sentence of that article gives a great overview of England's attitude to this matter. It is interesting to see no mention of arguably the most successful spinner of the year, Ollie Rayner, who has played a key role in Middlesex's title charge. Given they already have Stokes, Woakes and Ali to get runs down the order, I think it might make a little sense to pick a spinner who is likely to get wickets in spinning conditions!

Dunno why they don't rate Rayner, maybe it's what HZ said and he needs bounce, but it's hard to say it's on lack of batting ability because he definitely can bat.

 

[a massive zebra]

Would be amazed if he is in the Test squads. He has had a brilliant season in one day cricket so I think England looking at him as a back up for Moeen is totally fair enough but being picked in the Test squad would just be so weird.

13 wickets @ 37 in List A matches is a brilliant season in one day cricket?

 

[ImpatientLime]

rayner needs a lot of bounce to succeed.

when the bounce is not there for him he turns into a dart thrower. i can't think of a single front line spinner i've watched live who is prone to bowling as flat as he does.

 

[grecian]

Has Piers Morgan started saying this match is proof that KP should be recalled yet?

 

[Pothas]

13 wickets @ 37 in List A matches is a brilliant season in one day cricket?

359 runs @71 with a strike rate of 118 and a bowling economy of 4.2 in the Royal London thingy, think I would call that a fairly brilliant season, he was excellent in the twenty20 as well. Would say that makes him a pretty good candidate as a back up to Moeen's role in the ODI side, does nothing to suggest he should in the Test side.

 

[91Jmay]

13 wickets @ 37 in List A matches is a brilliant season in one day cricket?

He has averaged 70 with the bat

 

[grecian]

Surely even Pakistan can't **** this up?

 

[91Jmay]

We need two more wickets in next few overs, still absolute canter for them.

 

[smash84]

are we going to see another lollapse from pak? Probably