The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[mr_mister]

I believe in having a combination of spin and pace

 

[AldoRaine18]

No right or wrong here, just preferences.

 

[Red]

Noooooo.

Never mind SWaugh, McGrath basically unpicked the windies in 95 even as a pup. By 97 he was crazy good. Donald was brilliant but a bit soft on the left side of his chest cavity and Waqar, albeit only aged 5 by the mid-90s was having lots of injury worries.

Obviously not saying McGrath wasn't good, but talking the decade of the 90s, the three best quicks were probably Ambrose, Wasim and one of either Donald or Waqar.

 

[Flametree]

Not just any 4 pacers though. They did keep winning for a few years in all conditions so I wouldn't worry too much about it.

I believe in playing to your strengths.

I'm sure I've seen a stat which says the West Indian bowler of the 70s to mid 90s era with the best win ratio in tests was... Roger Harper.

 

[Zinzan]

Two great sides with the initial 'M' in their christian names. Any other initial match it for depth? Don, Dennis, Glenn, Garry?

First XI

Matthew Hayden
Michael Vaughan*
Michael Clarke
Martin Crowe
Michael Hussey
Monty Noble
MS Dhoni+
Maurice Tait
Malcolm Marshall
Michael Holding
Muttiah Muralitharan

Second XI

Michael Atherton
Mark Taylor*
Mark Waugh
Mahela Jayawardene
Michael C Cowdrey
Mushtaq Mohammad
Mark Boucher+
Mitchell Johnson
Morne Morkel
Matthew Hoggard
Mitchell Starc

Unlucky to miss out; Makhaya Ntini, Merv Hughes, Matt Prior & Mushtaq Ahmed.

 

[Howe_zat]

Jayawardene ahead of Hussey. Also, Mohammed Yousuf

 

[Howe_zat]

Jack Hobbs
John Edrich
Joe Root
Jacques Kallis
Javed Miandad
Jack Ryder
John Waite
Jim Laker
James Anderson
Joel Garner
Jack Cowie

Jackie McGlew
Jimmy Cook
Jonathan Trott
Jimmy Adams
John R Reid
Joe Darling
Jeff Dujon
Johnny Briggs
Johnny Wardle
Jason Gillespie
John Snow

With apologies to Jack Blackham, Jock Cameron, Jack Russell, Jackie Hendricks, Johnny Bairstow and Jos Buttler, because if you keep wicket, you begin with J

 

[Victor Ian]

surely someone can complete the Ss and make it a winner

sunil gavaskar
sid barnes
steve smith
sachin tendulkar
shiv shanderpaul
steve waugh
some keeper
someone else
shane warne
shaun pollock
sydney barnes
shoab ahktar

Sir Garfield Sobers
Sir Vivian Richards
Sir ....

 

[the big bambino]

I'm sure I've seen a stat which says the West Indian bowler of the 70s to mid 90s era with the best win ratio in tests was... Roger Harper.

Subtle.

 

[Zinzan]

surely someone can complete the Ss and make it a winner

sunil gavaskar
sid barnes
steve smith
sachin tendulkar
shiv shanderpaul
steve waugh
some keeper
someone else
shane warne
shaun pollock
sydney barnes
shoab ahktar

Sir Garfield Sobers
Sir Vivian Richards
Sir ....

Discounting the Sirs, I'd probably go....

Sunil Gavaskar
Stewie Dempster
Sidney Barnes
Sachin Tendulkar
Steve Smith
Steve Waugh
Syed Kirmani+
Shaun Pollock
Shane Warne
Sydney Barnes
Shane Bond

 

[Zinzan]

While we're at it, 'D's...

1st XI

David Warner
Dennis Amiss
Don Bradman*
David Gower
Dennis Compton
Damien Martyn
Denis Lindsay+
Daniel Vettori
Dale Steyn
Darren Gough
Derek Underwood

2nd XI

David Boon
Desmond Haynes
Dilip Vengsarkar
Darryl Cullinan
Dean Jones
Douglas Jardine*
Deryck Murray+
Dion Nash
Dominic Cork
Dilip Doshi
Danny Morrison

Looking fwd to Jardine instructing Morrison to bowl leg theory.

 

[The Battlers Prince]

A
Arthur Morris
Arthur Shrewsbury
Allan Border* (true AB)
AB De Villiers
Andy Flower
Aubrey Faulkner
Allan Knott
Alan Davidson
Anil Kumble
Allan Donald
Andy Roberts

 

[Howe_zat]

A
Arthur Morris
Arthur Shrewsbury
Allan Border* (true AB)
AB De Villiers
Andy Flower
Aubrey Faulkner
Allan Knott
Alan Davidson
Anil Kumble
Allan Donald
Andy Roberts

Archie MacLaren
Andrew Stoddart
Aravinda de Silva
Adam Voges
Angelo Mathews
Anthony Grieg
Adam Gilchrist
Abdul Razzaq
Amar Singh
Abdul Qadir
Alec Bedser

 

[Burgey]

While we're at it, 'D's...

1st XI

David Warner
Dennis Amiss
Don Bradman*
David Gower
Dennis Compton
Damien Martyn
Denis Lindsay+
Daniel Vettori
Dale Steyn
Darren Gough
Derek Underwood

2nd XI

David Boon
Desmond Haynes
Dilip Vengsarkar
Darryl Cullinan
Dean Jones
Douglas Jardine*
Deryck Murray+
Dion Nash
Dominic Cork
Dilip Doshi
Danny Morrison

Looking fwd to Jardine instructing Morrison to bowl leg theory.

Dennis Lillee probably worth a spot

 

[Zinzan]

Can't believe I forgot Lillee. He'd be 12th man in the 2nd XI, but would come in if Morrison got injured.

 

[Burgey]

Fair enough too.

 

[Burgey]

A
Arthur Morris
Arthur Shrewsbury
Allan Border* (true AB)
AB De Villiers
Andy Flower
Aubrey Faulkner
Allan Knott
Alan Davidson
Anil Kumble
Allan Donald
Andy Roberts

Good. Very, very good.

 

[Coronis]

A
Arthur Morris
Arthur Shrewsbury
Allan Border* (true AB)
AB De Villiers
Andy Flower
Aubrey Faulkner
Allan Knott
Alan Davidson
Anil Kumble
Allan Donald
Andy Roberts

Gilchrist????

 

[Zinzan]

Knott does make a few people's ATG XI to be fair, even if Gilchrist makes most. Not sure it quite warrants 4 question marks, perhaps 2

 

[The Battlers Prince]

Gilchrist????

Tbf I made this 5 minutes before I left for work. I don't mind Knott anyhow, so either way.