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*Official* Pakistan in England and Ireland 2016
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Daemon
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It is for me. Please explain the exact differences, this is a genuine question because I didn't watch much cricket pre 2010. Also last I checked Karachi isn't the only city in Pakistan.
Daemon
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Rather have none than having the very distinct trait of being a ****
honestbharani
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No, but Pak has sea covering one side of its border. And being close to the beach does create a different climate pattern than a desert. Soil tends to be different, so pitches will be different. And the wind from the sea always plays its part in the port city games. You can consider Karachi as just one city in Pak but they pretty much have a test every year there so that is 1 out of 6 or so which is already very different from what you get in the UAE. I am sure Lahore, being in the Punjab next to the mountains is very different weather wise to the desert cities too. My point is, no matter how much you try to ensure the pitch favors you (and in this case, it just means Pak try to create tracks that can turn and help their spinners at some point in the test) it is most definitely NOT their home conditions. These are not the pitches they grew up on. End of story.
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No it's not the end of the story, I want to know why the conditions are considered "quite a lot different" from the UAE conditions. Like, more specifically than what you just mentioned.
I agree completely that they deserve bonus points for playing in their adopted home, but I'm not quite sure to what extent.
I'm also fairly certain that UAE pitches probably use a blend of Pakistani soil.
I agree completely that they deserve bonus points for playing in their adopted home, but I'm not quite sure to what extent.
I'm also fairly certain that UAE pitches probably use a blend of Pakistani soil.
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TheJediBrah
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Yeah I wouldn't say that UAE pitches in general are "quite a lot different" to Pakistani pitches in general, any more than different pitches in different cities within many countries are different.
A typical Lahore wicket is probably a lot more similar to a typical Dubai wicket than a traditional Brisbane pitch is to a (90s) Sydney pitch.
Agent Nationaux
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Aren't UAE pitches slower than Pak pitches?
Furball
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Dubai and Abu Dhabi are coastal cities, they're not stuck in the middle of a desert.
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honestbharani
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Conditions, as in atmospheric which plays no small part in how a cricket ball behaves off the pitch as well as how the soil is prepared and maintained on said pitch. They are a "lot" different to Pakistan but if you are going to go compare and say it is closer to Pak than the conditions in England would be, be my guest. That was not my point. The conditions are still quite very different to what you get in Pakistan in the UAE and that is that.
The point is not that Pak suddenly started playing in Australia-like conditions for their home tests. The point is that, the weather and pitch conditions are quite different in the UAE compared to Pakistan given the nature of the land there and they deserve credit for making it their fortress inspite of not having been born and brought up in such conditions.
TheJediBrah
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No one's disputing that
I don't really now why you started talking about atmospheric conditions and the rest but it was entertaining lol
honestbharani
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No, but it is close enough to the arid area to feel the dust and the sand. Not the case in Pakistan. Also, check out average rainfall in the cities that host cricket in Pak and then do the same in the UAE. Jeez.. Try these links to comprehend what was a very basic and easy to understand point.
United Arab Emirates Climate
Pakistan Weather, Climate and Geography
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TheJediBrah
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hmm I think you've had a communication breakdown somewhere but rest assured no one disagrees with you that Pakistan deserve extra credit for not playing at home
smash84
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Pakistan has lots of different pitches Lahore, Karachi, Rawalpindi/Islamabad, Peshawar, Multan, Hyderabad and the conditions do differ from the UAE. For one the outfield in the UAE is softer/more lush (I fell that's because the UAE has better ground facilities like watering etc that keeps better grass carpet). The pitches allow a bit more on the first day for the pacers than they do in Pak generally Also while dubai is also a port city but the humidity levels are generally quite different which allows for swing conditions in Karachi that don't happen in Dubai. Also the wickets behave differently on the 4th and 5th day too. Pak pitches slightly flatter on those days than the UAE.