Overrated/Underrated

[Shady Slim]

this isn't the same as that mr_mister thread where it's exclusive to naming cricketers... it's everything and anything

overrated:
-pace bowling
-playing in the v
-the slope at lord's
-batsmen playing and missing outside the off stump
-gully

underrated:
-spin bowling
-reverse sweeps
-two midwickets
-carlos brathwaite

 

[hendrix]

I do think reverse sweeps are underrated and I've said on numerous occasions that the shot would be a valuable addition to the arsenal of some batsmen - notably Ross Taylor.

Fitness is underrated. A lot of the runs of "form" for both batsmen and bowlers coincides with when they are at their fittest.

 

[Gnske]

Underrated -
Having 2 or 3 all-rounders in your Test side
Not just thrusting your bat down the line when you want to leave a delivery

Overrated
Being a bat-up plebeian.
Reverse-swing

 

[Shady Slim]

I do think reverse sweeps are underrated and I've said on numerous occasions that the shot would be a valuable addition to the arsenal of some batsmen - notably Ross Taylor.

Fitness is underrated. A lot of the runs of "form" for both batsmen and bowlers coincides with when they are at their fittest.

they allow for easy runs through point and third man if you can control them

and re your second point mitchell johnson is an amazing example of that, especially if you've seen his semi doco bouncing back

 

[jimmy101]

Gully is not overrated.

 

[91Jmay]

Underrated: Test bowlers economy rates

Overrated: Defaulting to sticking more slips in mindlessly to show 'intent'

 

[Zinzan]

Gully is not overrated.

Not with Joel Garner fielding there anyway.

 

[jimmy101]

Precisely.

 

[mr_mister]

overrated: batting positions


"x averages 50 @ 5 and only 27 @ 6 he is playing out of position this innings what a disaster!"

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Overrated: The Ashes in general

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Underrated: Firdose Moonda articles

 

[Shady Slim]

Underrated: Firdose Moonda articles

as much as i respect your right to it, this is why some countries don't have free speech

overrated:
-quick drop and run singles

underrated:
-fly slip

 

[Adders]

Overrated
Being a bat-up plebeian.
Reverse-swing

Nah.

 

[Cabinet96]

Overrated: Playing for drinks/end of session/close of play. Have always thought the final session should be where batsman cash in against tired bowlers/fielders but you often see the sides shut up shot in the last hour. Nightwatchmen would go under this as well I guess.


And yes, this post is kind of badly timed given Azhar Ali getting out last ball on the 2nd day arguably lost Pakistan the test.

 

[Burgey]

Over rated:

Waqar Younis
Brett Lee
Matthew Hayden
Sunil Gavaskar
Sachin Tendulkar
Arjuna Ranatunga's captaincy
Stephen Fleming's captaincy
Mark Taylor's captaincy
Sourav Ganguly's captaincy
Sourav Ganguly's batting
Sourav Ganguly being a human being
Ian Botham
The 1980s and 90s West Indies recognised batsmen below about number five after Clive Lloyd retired (looking at you, Gus Logie, Carl Hooper, Keith Arthurton etc).
David Warner
Shoaib Akthar
Andy Flower
Ben Stokes
Jacques Kallis
Alistair Cook
Michael Holding's commentary
Ian Healy as a human being

Edit: subcontinental cricket records.
Jono

Under rated

Alan Davidson (/thread)
Ian Healy (as a keeper/ batsman)
Joel Garner
Rahul Dravid
Kapil Dev
Justin Langer
Mark Taylor's batting
Jason Gillespie
Chris Cairns as an all rounder
Frank Worrell's batting
Gary Sobers (on here)
Heath Streak
Bruce Reid
Merv Hughes
Saqlain Mushtaq
Wasim Bari
Gundhappa Viswanath
Dilip Vengsarkar
Steve Waugh (in 90s batting comparisons he barely rates a mention with Lara & Tendulkar, and he really, really should)
Allan Border in ATG discussions

 

[Burgey]

Overrated: The Ashes in general

Uh huh.

 

[mr_mister]

I mean do people really rate Gus Logie and Keith Arthurton that highly?

 

[smash84]

Underrated -
Having 2 or 3 all-rounders in your Test side
Not just thrusting your bat down the line when you want to leave a delivery

Overrated
Being a bat-up plebeian.
Reverse-swing

not great timing for this post

 

[Burgey]

You'd be surprised. Because Logie burned Australia a couple of times after we'd run through the top order, people talk about those sides as if they had amazing 1-11 line ups. They were great sides but their middle order pretty much post-Richardson's debut and the departure of the likes of Rowe and Kallicharan was pretty meh. Mind you, it rarely made a difference.

 

[Zinzan]

Over rated:

Waqar Younis
Brett Lee
Matthew Hayden
Sunil Gavaskar
Sachin Tendulkar
Arjuna Ranatunga's captaincy
Stephen Fleming's captaincy
Mark Taylor's captaincy
Sourav Ganguly's captaincy
Sourav Ganguly's batting
Sourav Ganguly being a human being
Ian Botham
The 1980s and 90s West Indies recognised batsmen below about number five after Clive Lloyd retired (looking at you, Gus Logie, Carl Hooper, Keith Arthurton etc).
David Warner
Shoaib Akthar
Andy Flower
Ben Stokes
Jacques Kallis
Alistair Cook
Michael Holding's commentary
Ian Healy as a human being

Under rated

Alan Davidson (/thread)
Ian Healy (as a keeper/ batsman)
Joel Garner
Rahul Dravid
Kapil Dev
Justin Langer
Mark Taylor's batting
Jason Gillespie
Chris Cairns as an all rounder
Frank Worrell's batting
Gary Sobers (on here)
Heath Streak
Bruce Reid
Merv Hughes
Saqlain Mushtaq
Wasim Bari
Gundhappa Viswanath
Dilip Vengsarkar
Steve Waugh (in 90s batting comparisons he barely rates a mention with Lara & Tendulkar, and he really, really should)
Allan Border in ATG discussions

Some good ones there like Alan Davidson, Chris Cairns & Heath Streak being underrated and Tendulkar being overrated. But do many really underrate Sobers on here? News to me, guy seems rightly to be held in god-like status from what I've seen. And Ian Botham, how's he overrated? The fact he declined from the late 80s onwards? Same with Gavaskar's batting, can't see how that's overrated assuming we're talking Test cricket.