*Official* Pakistan in England and Ireland 2016

[grecian]

Amir could run through us here, new ball hooping. Bairstow also has the ability to score quickly and move game along though

Yep, can't see the game standing still with Moeen in next.

 

[Flem274*]

james vince is a true english hero

 

[Black_Warrior]

This is what I was waiting for. Nass to be back and talk a little bit about Misbah's approach so maligned by Botham, Holding and Warne. Nass gets him because there's a bit of Misbah in his heart.

 

[Pothas]

I still think they might well give Vince the Oval.

 

[smash84]

Only way pakistan have a chance now is if they get the next 6 wickets in 40 odd runs. Which looks impossible

 

[Pothas]

Also, not even saying this because of Scaly but Borthwick is not necessarily the obvious option, certainly not the only one.

 

[91Jmay]

They will fancy Bell-Drummond for sure

 

[Niall]

Also, not even saying this because of Scaly but Borthwick is not necessarily the obvious option, certainly not the only one.

The only other one I think is moving Ali into the top six and making room for Rashid which is probably not a bad idea if it spins. Is their any other options?

 

[LegionOfBrad]

I realise Moeen is a lot looser at 8. But I can't see him being a goer in the top 6. No more than Vince is.

 

[smash84]

Sohail looking toothless in this innings

 

[smash84]

Amir get your **** together

 

[Niall]

Sohail looking toothless in this innings

Aye not built for test cricket it seems. Reminds me a lot of Bhuvi in the last few tests in 2014 after Dhoni broke him.

To be fair the others have been pretty solid today, not exactly peak bowling conditions against a side who for the most part have batted pretty sensibly.

 

[Niall]

I realise Moeen is a lot looser at 8. But I can't see him being a goer in the top 6. No more than Vince is.

Maybe, and as someone who thought it was a top idea for him to open in the UAE, I need to be careful

He definitely is good enough to bat in the top six and you suspect with the added responsibility of a batting promotion, he may bat a little more responsibly than he does when he bats at eight where sometimes he looks like he has Abroad "not arsed" type attitude.

 

[Furball]

Sohail looking toothless in this innings

He looked garbage at the end of the first innings.

 

[Pothas]

The only other one I think is moving Ali into the top six and making room for Rashid which is probably not a bad idea if it spins. Is their any other options?

There are the young but unproven types such as Bell-Drummond and Duckett but then you have someone like Sam Robson, or even Hildreth. Borthwick has had another good year, he has become a good county batsman, won't complain if they pick him but he is not clearly above others in county cricket?

 

[Stace]

Nah, dire post. Root has already played for match winning innings than Bell - who also never had a run of form nearly this good. He is frustrating but legitimately great.

Well that's not true is it considering Bell had a spell averaging 89 in 19 matches with 8 hundreds (only 3 less then Roots entire career). I don't think you can say for sure Root is legitimately great yet that's far far too early to say.

 

[Pothas]

Well that's not true is it considering Bell had a spell averaging 89 in 19 matches with 8 hundreds (only 3 less then Roots entire career). I don't think you can say for sure Root is legitimately great yet that's far far too early to say.

So actually Bell was pretty good at converting during that great run of form he had...

 

[Stace]

So actually Bell was pretty good at converting during that great run of form he had...

Not after the golden period which is what I was getting at...

 

[91Jmay]

Well that's not true is it considering Bell had a spell averaging 89 in 19 matches with 8 hundreds (only 3 less then Roots entire career). I don't think you can say for sure Root is legitimately great yet that's far far too early to say.

Didn't that include averaging 200 against Bangladesh?

 

[grecian]

LLok I'm frustrated by Vince too, but in the end he's got 81 runs in this Test match, and shared in some vital stands, can't see him not playing at the Oval. Pitch will help his strokeplay too.