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*Official* English Football Season 2015-16
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
That in itself is a pretty damning verdict though. It's basically just saying the only way Arsenal will have a chance is if all of their serious competitors stack it massively. And even then it will hardly be a shoo in, as this season has demonstrated fairly emphatically.
SkyBlue
U19 Cricketer
Chelsea have no European football.I think they're obvious favorites to finish top 4 tbh
Conte is frankly a great replacement for Mourinho.And he's already been in a situation where he had to propel a mentally broken,underachieving side to the top.
Obviously PL is going to be a different ball-game but not playing extra competitions is a distinct advantage which they could capitalize on.
Lets be honest,Chelsea still have a top squad on paper.3-4 significant additions could make them a title contender again.Conte will take care of the mental aspect.
Uppercut
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I think they're at least as likely to lose 3-4 top players. Hazard def wants out and Courtois is strongly hinting that he does too. The only really high quality players left would be Costa and Willian, maybe Azpilicueta I guess. Conte's a good manager but as it stands they're in pretty bad shape.
SkyBlue
U19 Cricketer
I agree with Hazard but no way they'd let go off 3-4 stars especially for a club thats mostly used to buying.They would retain some of them even if they wanted to leave especially someone like Courtois.There's pretty much no club higher than the standard of Chelsea that desperately needs a top GK atm.Its all speculation at this point anyway.
People took De Gea leaving for Madrid for granted and look what happened in the end.
SkyBlue
U19 Cricketer
The one in bad shape atm is Arsenal.
The British core project is failing.Oezil and Sanchez, the two stars of the club openly expressing dissatisfaction and perhaps hinting at moves to other big clubs.And they have the same manager whose threshold seems to be finishing 3rd or 4th at this point.
Its all about ambition.Chelsea unlike Arsenal have shown they would go the extra mile if required.
The British core project is failing.Oezil and Sanchez, the two stars of the club openly expressing dissatisfaction and perhaps hinting at moves to other big clubs.And they have the same manager whose threshold seems to be finishing 3rd or 4th at this point.
Its all about ambition.Chelsea unlike Arsenal have shown they would go the extra mile if required.
SkyBlue
U19 Cricketer
Whats CC ?
Anyway you claim Chelsea are vulnerable in terms of losing their stars,i say Arsenal are just as vulnerable if not more.Regarding the ambition,it perhaps not be the right word,but Chelsea are just more likely to make good use of their financial resources then Arsenal would in normal circumstances.A new manager and a disastrous season means they're likely going to spend even beyond normal conditions and do everything they could to keep their stars.Thats basically it.
I dint claim Arsenal would finish outside Top 4 though(its difficult to make next season's predictions anyway),i am talking about Chelsea.Without the pressures and travelling involved in European football,Chelsea would play more freely and i think that'll help.
And nope,at the start of the season,the consensus was that City had the best squad in the league and i agree with it.They were playing some top stuff during the first few months of the season.After Pep's announcement,they just happened to stop caring.
Anyway you claim Chelsea are vulnerable in terms of losing their stars,i say Arsenal are just as vulnerable if not more.Regarding the ambition,it perhaps not be the right word,but Chelsea are just more likely to make good use of their financial resources then Arsenal would in normal circumstances.A new manager and a disastrous season means they're likely going to spend even beyond normal conditions and do everything they could to keep their stars.Thats basically it.
I dint claim Arsenal would finish outside Top 4 though(its difficult to make next season's predictions anyway),i am talking about Chelsea.Without the pressures and travelling involved in European football,Chelsea would play more freely and i think that'll help.
And nope,at the start of the season,the consensus was that City had the best squad in the league and i agree with it.They were playing some top stuff during the first few months of the season.After Pep's announcement,they just happened to stop caring.
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Dubious assertion.Whats CC ?
Anyway you claim Chelsea are vulnerable in terms of losing their stars,i say Arsenal are just as vulnerable if not more.Regarding the ambition,it perhaps not be the right word,but Chelsea are just more likely to make good use of their financial resources then Arsenal would in normal circumstances.A new manager and a disastrous season means they're likely going to spend even beyond normal conditions and do everything they could to keep their stars.Thats basically it.
I dint claim Arsenal would finish outside Top 4 though(its difficult to make next season's predictions anyway),i am talking about Chelsea.Without the pressures and travelling involved in European football,Chelsea would play more freely and i think that'll help.
And nope,at the start of the season,the consensus was that City had the best squad in the league and i agree with it.They were playing some top stuff during the first few months of the season.After Pep's announcement,they just happened to stop caring.
duffer
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I might be wrong but didn't they fall of a cliff results wise after the appointment?
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
It's arguable that their form took a hit after the appointment was announced, but they were hardly looking like world beaters beforehand. They'd already eaten a number of defeats and were looking unconvincing.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Yeah, I'd agree. Probably have 2-3 good to serviceable players in every position. Can't really think of many other sides that could be said of. As you allude to though, that just makes them all the more annoying. Particularly given a lack of depth has been one of Arsenal's biggest killers over the last 5-10 years.
SkyBlue
U19 Cricketer
Yep.
After Pep's announcement which was in Feb.Since then,
Sunderland 0-1 City
City 1-3 Leicester
City 1-2 Spurs
Pool 3-0 City
Norwich 0-0 City
Villa 0-4 City
City 0-1 United
Chelsea 0-3 City
Newcastle 1-1 City
In the league alone,just 3 wins in 9 games.And 3 home losses.
Manuel Pellegrini admits Pep Guardiola's incoming arrival played a part in derailing Manchester City's Premier League title bid * | Daily Mail Online
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SkyBlue
U19 Cricketer
Needless to say,City would still be in the title race right now if not for the poor run of form they had recently.
City dint look convincing in 13-14 either when they won the title.Pellegrini has a poor record against the big sides either way but they consistently used to beat the scrub teams which played a big hand in them winning the league that yr.
Arsenal on the other hand,as soon as they build some momentum by going on a run beating good teams,they suddenly capitulate by losing to some random mid-table team.That 4-0 against Southampton this yr pretty much summed up Arsenal of the last 7-8 yrs.
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