***Official*** New Zealand Domestic Season 2015/16

[Hurricane]

Fantastic achievement by Popli. Unfortunately missing a double in there or he would be a contender for the number 5 spot.

Popli played well in that A game against SL as well. He and Ben Smith piled on the runs and everyone else folded.

 

[Hurricane]

The Shell Trophy was only three games of it, but Turner managed 1000+ in first-class cricket overall in 1975/76 - The Home of CricketArchive

The chart on that table indicates he scored some of the runs for New Zealand.

I reckon the contenders for this crown should be those who did it 100% in the plunket shield.

Which rules out Turner as well for his efforts in county cricket.

 

[Kippax]

Yeah Hesson and McMillan will find it hard to get Bharat competing with Henry Nicholls in their minds.

It's good work for a New Zealander to spray high enough onto the toilet wall to get some BBL recognition, not to mention being specifically sought out by Australian icons like Watto and Michael Hussey.

 

[Hurricane]

Yeah Hesson and McMillan will find it hard to get Bharat competing with Henry Nicholls in their minds.

It's good work for a New Zealander to spray high enough onto the toilet wall to get some BBL recognition, not to mention being specifically sought out by Australian icons like Watto and Michael Hussey.

I realise that we don't want to be England of the 1990s - but goodness we have some patience with spuds. My mind is already made up about Nicholls, I think he is passable in an ODI context and not passable in tests. I realise he has only had a couple of goes, but I have seen enough.

 

[straw man]

FMD Ajaz Patel really the top wicket-taker? A silky smooth action though looks slightly more darty this season, and no turn.

 

[straw man]

Guptill-Bunce must have scored a truckload of runs last few weeks while I haven't been paying as much attention too.

Well done him, Popli, Smith, Young and O'Donnell from the younger group of players.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

I realise that we don't want to be England of the 1990s - but goodness we have some patience with spuds. My mind is already made up about Nicholls, I think he is passable in an ODI context and not passable in tests. I realise he has only had a couple of goes, but I have seen enough.

Rutherspud was definitely given too much time, but Nicholls hasn't been given any. If you don't give them enough rope to actually fail then they'll only keep coming in and out of the team like a lesser Hickrakash.

 

[Zinzan]

I realise that we don't want to be England of the 1990s - but goodness we have some patience with spuds. My mind is already made up about Nicholls, I think he is passable in an ODI context and not passable in tests. I realise he has only had a couple of goes, but I have seen enough.

Lol, Hurricane so cavalierly referring to spuds is so 2016. Love it.

 

[African Monkey]

I realise that we don't want to be England of the 1990s - but goodness we have some patience with spuds. My mind is already made up about Nicholls, I think he is passable in an ODI context and not passable in tests. I realise he has only had a couple of goes, but I have seen enough.

he'll get at least 10-15 tests. Don't mind the policy personally but not when it's given to the wrong players such as Nicholls in tests and Rutherford.

 

[Kippax]

The Southland Times are actually condoning this Cumming Your Way come on the telly dummy language of its people. Get in the sea, Southland Times.

James Neesham's words of wisdom sticks with Otago team mate Ryan Duffy | Stuff.co.nz

"Mum and Nana come up [from Invercargill] for my birthday so they were watching, it was special having them there. My good mate from Christchurch [Tim Muir] come down for my birthday and he turned up when I was on 99, so that was cool."

His century come a matter of nine days after Duffy was cruelly stranded 10 runs short of his first century playing against Auckland.

Duffy run out of partners and finished unbeaten on 90.

 

[Hurricane]

Rutherspud was definitely given too much time, but Nicholls hasn't been given any. If you don't give them enough rope to actually fail then they'll only keep coming in and out of the team like a lesser Hickrakash.

So be it, Let him be a Hickrakash player then. We can't have a process of elimination for each possible candidate that lasts at least ten tests.

At some point you just have to size up their technique. He is a budget player than can potentially fill a role in the ODI side through sheer self belief. As gareth Hopkins found out, self belief doesn't help you in tests that much, you actually have to be good.

I am rambling a bit - basically I DWTA with you.

Edit - a number of other players hammered at the door this year in Plunket.

 

[jcas0167]

So be it, Let him be a Hickrakash player then. We can't have a process of elimination for each possible candidate that lasts at least ten tests.

At some point you just have to size up their technique. He is a budget player than can potentially fill a role in the ODI side through sheer self belief. As gareth Hopkins found out, self belief doesn't help you in tests that much, you actually have to be good.

I am rambling a bit - basically I DWTA with you.

Edit - a number of other players hammered at the door this year in Plunket.

I know it's not the point here, but Duncan Fletcher said if he'd been coach in the 90's he'd have never dropped Hick or Ramprakash.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

So be it, Let him be a Hickrakash player then. We can't have a process of elimination for each possible candidate that lasts at least ten tests.

Nicholls hasn't done much wrong yet. Just because you don't like his aesthetics, doesn't mean he's incapable of cutting the mustard. After all, you'd never have given Steve Smith a second chance.

 

[Neil Young]

Or Andrew Jones...

 

[Hurricane]

Nicholls hasn't done much wrong yet. Just because you don't like his aesthetics, doesn't mean he's incapable of cutting the mustard. After all, you'd never have given Steve Smith a second chance.

How dare you out logic me!

I will respond momentarilty after I soothe my feathers and have an Arrowroot biscuit.

 

[Hurricane]

Or Andrew Jones...

Don't get me started on Andrew Jones.

 

[Hurricane]

Nicholls hasn't done much wrong yet. Just because you don't like his aesthetics, doesn't mean he's incapable of cutting the mustard. After all, you'd never have given Steve Smith a second chance.

8,59,7,2

Those are the reasons I don't like him. His loose technique is another nail.

Someone posted a piece of logic that might work for some but didn't for me, that because those efforts were against Australia we can look forward to better outings against other teams.

If you can't score against Australia then you won't score againt England or SA and possibly not a rejuvenated Pakistan pace attack.

Peter Ingram only got two tests, and one of substance (Aussie) since the other was Bangladesh and one of his dismissals against Australia was a run out -so you can argue that Ingram only really got one inning to prove himself. He failed and that was the end of him because he didn't look the part and neither does Nicholls.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Henry Nicholls - age at Test debut - 24
Peter Ingram - age at Test debut - 32

SPD Smith - first 4 Test innings (1, 12, 10, 77)

In summary, Nicholls and Ingram both have what you deign to be "loose technique". Ingram wasn't viewed as worth investing in as he was 32 by the time he got his Test shot. He was fully retired from all cricket in 20 months after his final Test match.

Smith has an unorthodox technique, one that you've criticised and meant that after his first dash at Tests he was dropped for a reasonable spell.

I'm not saying that you're definitely wrong about Nicholls not being up to it, but you're wrong to not give him more time.

 

[Prince EWS]

I don't really believe in Nicholls but it'd be extremely harsh to drop him so soon. If anything he looked more competent in his Tests than I expected him to.

 

[Immenso]

It's all academic anyway if NZC can't organise another A tour/series.

Because whoever replaces Nicholls will need to have performed at A level. Like he did.