***Official*** Australia in New Zealand 2016

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I recognize these words but my brain can't parse the sentence.

Precisely. He's better than Reason, but not by a big margin.

 

[GotSpin]

Can we perma sticky this thread?

 

[TNT]

Australian players are privately seething about the crowd in NZ attacking family members including the players children but more importantly the lack of response from security.

Australian batsman David Warner has confirmed he and several of his teammates were left angered after days of "derogatory and vulgar" abuse from Kiwi crowds.
After Australia completed their tour of New Zealand with a 2-0 triumph in the test series, Warner said some of the touring party were forced to call for security after prolonged abuse from the New Zealand crowd took its toll.
Warner said family members were referenced too, while it was also believed names of the Australian's children were also dropped.
"Some of the stuff was pretty derogatory and vulgar," Warner said upon arriving back in Sydney today. "You get your odd banter here or there but when they're talking about people's families it takes it a little bit too far."
Cricket: Warner lashes out at 'vulgar' abuse - Sport - NZ Herald News

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

This from the team and leadership group that was only recently encouraging the crowds to berate, insult and generally annoy Stuart Broad as much as possible.

Now, I can get behind winding up Stuart Broad, but the hypocrisy is palpable.

 

[Bahnz]

Australian players are privately seething about the crowd in NZ attacking family members including the players children but more importantly the lack of response from security.

Probably considered the Australians were just used to it given that the one dishing out the abuse was Australian anyway.

Cricket: Witnesses claim man ejected from Hagley Oval following atercation with offical over abuse of Australian players was Australian himself - Cricket - NZ Herald News

 

[Hurricane]

Aussie crowds aren't saints.

In various cricketing biographies I have read - there are accounts of team meetings on tour in Australia where they actively said "who shall we send to field in front of the boundary". Eventually some fast bowler would put up his hand and say "nothing bothers me I'll do it" and there would be a sigh of relief amongst the thinner skinned members of the team.

If that isn't enough for you Michael Holding in a Fire in Babylon said playing in front of Australian crowds was devastating that first time he went through it. "There were things said to me that should never be said to another human being".

 

[TheJediBrah]

This from the team and leadership group that was only recently encouraging the crowds to berate, insult and generally annoy Stuart Broad as much as possible.

Now, I can get behind winding up Stuart Broad, but the hypocrisy is palpable.

something something cross the line something

 

[Zinzan]

Superb article from Chris Rattue. It won't please the fanboi's and apologists who are gearing up for a no-doubt riveting 'NZ vs Zimbabwe 2016' tour thread but Rattue is right on the money.

Chris Rattue: Aussie smokescreen fails to paper over the Black Caps' cracks - Sport - NZ Herald News

How convenient. A couple of Aussies lose the plot and, hey presto, it's a handy smokescreen for a dire New Zealand performance over five tests against Australia.

I'm p@##$% off all right, but not at bad-mannered Josh Hazlewood or Steve Smith. The Black Caps were a test disaster, and maybe even distracted by the Brendon McCullum celebrity tour.

Sure, the Aussies take their competitive attitude too far sometimes, but a lot of our blokes haven't taken it far enough.

A potentially great cricket test series, which could have been a landmark, turned into a dud. McCullum is a great Kiwi sports character, but save all the pats on the back until after the series. There was a job to be done, a contest to get into, and New Zealand failed miserably.

The vital combo of attitude, planning and skill was woefully short of the mark. Neil Wagner's second test onslaught was a belated signpost to his teammates, although I'm not sure his short-ball methods will bring sustained test success and it was an ugly, hamfisted way to go about the game, quite frankly.



But his heart and stamina were admirable and there is a skill, of sorts, to what he does. Others, well, not so much. The vaunted new ball attack of Tim Southee and Trent Boult was rubbish. The spin bowling situation is embarrassing. Some batsmen, led by the captain, simply took a punt.

For three big test series, against England once and Australia twice, New Zealand have failed to hit the ground running. McCullum's addiction to slogging and Southee's social league attitude to batting are roll-the-dice methods that don't work. The second innings dismissal of Martin Guptill in Wellington epitomised the problems. Rather than riding out on white charger, McCullum is actually leaving a test mess.

Yes, the lure of Indian T20 money has had an effect and, yes, it has been a long year for some of the players since the World Cup. But if you can't get off the floor to give it everything against Australia, something is amiss. McCullum and coach Mike Hesson's side has been disjointed and looked poorly prepared.

As for the Aussies, they step over the line of acceptable behaviour and need to take stock. But that is nowhere near as annoying as the McCullum-led move to position New Zealand as cricket behaviour-saviours if it leads to the surrender we've just witnessed.

Australia's relentless drive for victory is a huge part of what makes world cricket tick. I love watching them play, and they have been brilliant in this series.

Usman Khawaja is a joy to watch, a lazy-looking left-hander who evokes the great David Gower. The Adam Voges phenomenon is a story in itself. Their fast bowlers were superbly skilled, and one James Pattinson over to Guptill will live long in the memory.

Australia are No 1 and New Zealand a long, long way from that.

It's extremely difficult to disagree with the contents of this article if we're honest.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

something something cross the line something

I'd like to think that encouraging crowds to specifically target an individual for spurious reasons would also quite clearly constitute crossing the line. None of this **** is acceptable, but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

 

[Spark]

I look forward to that article being posted for a fourth time in a few hours' time.

When exactly did we decide that teams are responsible for the behaviour of home crowds anyway?

 

[Zinzan]

Australian players are privately seething about the crowd in NZ attacking family members including the players children but more importantly the lack of response from security.

Amazed NZ crowds would get stuck in to such a nice gentlemanly bloke as David Warner.

 

[Spark]

Amazed NZ crowds would get stuck in to such a nice gentlemanly bloke as David Warner.

In fairness Warner's behaved pretty well across both series.

 

[Zinzan]

In fairness Warner's behaved pretty well across both series.

He has mellowed since the death of Hughes tbf, but obviously the years prior to that of being an utter **** is still deep in the memory of some.

 

[Hurricane]

I look forward to that article being posted for a fourth time in a few hours' time.

When exactly did we decide that teams are responsible for the behaviour of home crowds anyway?

He was determined to get us to bite on it. He tried posting it once. We took the high road. He started a whole thread with it which was fortunately locked as nothing good was going to come from it, finally desperate for a bite he went a 3rd time and wore our resistance levels down. Kudos to him for being persistent.

 

[Spark]

He has mellowed since the death of Hughes tbf, but obviously the years prior to that of being an utter **** is still deep in the memory of some.

I think having the VC has encouraged him to pull his head in a fair bit. He's certainly not quiet, but I can't recall a single instance of him being particularly notable for untoward reasons, let alone crossing the line, during the entire summer.

 

[TNT]

Amazed NZ crowds would get stuck in to such a nice gentlemanly bloke as David Warner.

I think Dave would be disappointed if they didn't, I think his beef is they went after the players children.

 

[Hurricane]

Gosh I will miss the trans tasman banter in this thread considering our next tour is Zimbos or someone.

Well played to all the Australian posters, see you several years from now when we do this again. When are we doing this again? not before 2020 based on my knowledge. booo.

 

[Zinzan]

I think Dave would be disappointed if they didn't, I think his beef is they went after the players children.

That is poor form obviously, although if we're to believe Chris Cairns (which is a question within itself these days), it's not as poor as when Australian players supposedly made "choo choo" sounds shortly after Cairns' sister was killed in a level crossing accident. Although the Australians did vehemently deny this.

 

[Gnske]

That is poor form obviously, although if we're to believe Chris Cairns (which is a question within itself these days), it's not as poor as when Australian players supposedly made "choo choo" sounds shortly after Cairns' sister was killed in a level crossing accident. Although the Australians did vehemently deny this.

Kek.

I believe the Australians, Australian players never lie.

 

[TNT]

That is poor form obviously, although if we're to believe Chris Cairns (which is a question within itself these days), it's not as poor as when Australian players supposedly made "choo choo" sounds shortly after Cairns' sister was killed in a level crossing accident. Although the Australians did vehemently deny this.

Chris Cairns denied that it happened also.