***Official*** Australia in New Zealand 2016

[NUFAN]

Siddle just needs to score a further 6013 runs without being dismissed and he will have an average of 100 too.

Terrific work from Voges, Khawaja too.

 

[NZTailender]

Also in terms of fringe players who have really taken their chance, is he better than Hussey?

Streets ahead of Jaques, Love and Hodge.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

203* needed for him to appear on this list among all the Bradman's: HowSTAT! Test Cricket - Highest Average after Playing X Innings

 

[Zinzan]

Strange KV seems to have retreated. Possibly reviewing his weird theories with some adjusted formulas.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Also in terms of fringe players who have really taken their chance, is he better than Hussey?

Streets ahead of Jaques, Love and Hodge.

Don't think so, Hussey had a legitimately significant career in multiple formats. Scored more test runs than Michael Slater and Adam Gilchrist. But certainly one of the best late career debutants ever.

 

[Gnske]

Also in terms of fringe players who have really taken their chance, is he better than Hussey?

Streets ahead of Jaques, Love and Hodge.

I think he's far more impressive in that he went from an okay shield player averaging just around 40 to god mode where most players would be degenerating at his age.

 

[Neil Young]

I'm just pleased the umpiring error hasn't cost us....




Or are we over that now?

 

[NUFAN]

203* needed for him to appear on this list among all the Bradman's: HowSTAT! Test Cricket - Highest Average after Playing X Innings

I've never actually seen this list before. I like how Hutton and Ponting have both appeared after quite a long gap from their previous time up the top.

 

[NZTailender]

I think he's far more impressive in that he went from an okay shield player averaging just around 40 to god mode where most players would be degenerating at his age.

tbf he's filled his boots against a minnow and the West Indies.

I'm reserving judgement till he's toured a few other countries.

 

[Gnske]

tbf he's filled his boots against a minnow and the West Indies

Hussey didn't face too great attacks either, WI at home for debut, a bland SA attack to follow, Bangladesh, the minnows of 06/07 then Sri Lanka (and NZ?)

But like Voges, he played some pretty excellent knocks.

 

[Redbacks]

Strange KV seems to have retreated. Possibly reviewing his weird theories with some adjusted formulas.

I think he's posting 'on my face' in the how do you like your eggs thread...

 

[vandem]

I think he's far more impressive in that he went from an okay shield player averaging just around 40 to god mode where most players would be degenerating at his age.

Voges is only in "god mode" against test teams currently ranked 6 and 8 in the world. Against top 5 teams he averages 28 (from one Ashes series).

 

[Gnske]

Voges is only in "god mode" against test teams currently ranked 6 and 8 in the world. Against top 5 teams he averages 28 (from one Ashes series).

Not everyone can be Mark Taylor

Besides no one cares about an away Ashes

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Voges is only in "god mode" against test teams currently ranked 6 and 8 in the world. Against top 5 teams he averages 28 (from one Ashes series).

I think the "god mode" includes the last year and a bit of domestic cricket as well where he was dominant. He just went from being a good but not amazing domestic batsman to a very, very good one later in his career. Similar to Hussey really, just a bit later on.

 

[cnerd123]

You people are making it sound like Voges has been the only batsman who has gotten to face WI's and NZ's bowling in the last year or so.

If it really was that easy then the entire Australian batting lineup would be averaging 100+ for the last year or so. But they aren't. Only Voges is. Give the man some credit.

 

[NZTailender]

Hussey didn't face too great attacks either, WI at home for debut, a bland SA attack to follow, Bangladesh, the minnows of 06/07 then Sri Lanka (and NZ?)

But like Voges, he played some pretty excellent knocks.

Averaged 25 vs NZ tbf

 

[cnerd123]

Batting stats for the Australian side from Voges debut

Notice how Smith averages almost 30 runs less, and Warner almost half.

Uzzy has a higher average but half the runs.

Voges and Smith are tied for most tons for Oz in this period.

Obviously stats aren't everything, but Voges does deserve some credit for this effort.

 

[Spikey]

crazy how one moment can change a game. if one moment had just favoured NZ this could be totally totally different. Thank god for Peter Nevill's catch of the century

 

[vandem]

You people are making it sound like Voges has been the only batsman who has gotten to face WI's and NZ's bowling in the last year or so.

If it really was that easy then the entire Australian batting lineup would be averaging 100+ for the last year or so. But they aren't. Only Voges is. Give the man some credit.

Aust batting averages vs NZ and WI this season, including 1st innings here:

Warner, 823 runs @ 82
Khawaja 644 runs @ 128
SMarsh 233 runs @ 77
Smith 566 runs @ 70

Voges bats lower in the order than these.

He's playing well but there is an element of downhill skiing in all of his centuries apart from his match-winning debut innings in WI.

 

[kiwiviktor81]

Strange KV seems to have retreated. Possibly reviewing his weird theories with some adjusted formulas.

Lost interest in the Test after the Voges dismissal. If an umpire can gift a team 150+ runs then it's a contest of luck and not of skill.