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***Official*** India in Australia ODIs 2016

Prince EWS

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Nah. We get the impression that since India are racking up 300+ scores and not defending them its the bowling's fault, but realy these are 330 par conditions.
Yeah that's probably true, but they're also not conditions you can rely on 20 overs of spin. Perhaps Rishi Dhawan in for a batsman might make some sense; Jadeja is probably a better fit than Pandey for the situation Pandey is likely to come in at anyway.
 

cnerd123

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I don't think 10 overs of Dhawan will be any better than 10 overs of Jadeja going by the comments about his bowling tbh.

Pandey definitely not a fit to be coming in during the final 10 overs. Gurkeerat has to get a game; but he bowls spin too so that doesn't really solve anything either.
 

Jono

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Nah. We get the impression that since India are racking up 300+ scores and not defending them its the bowling's fault, but realy these are 330 par conditions.
Pretty sure it is the bowler's fault when they chase 300 down so comfortably.
 

honestbharani

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I would say drop Pandey and Ashwin and play Gurkeerat and Rishi Dhawan. Also Bhuvi in for Umesh might help lengthen the batting ability of the tail a little bit.


Ideally,



Rohit
Dhawan/Rahane
Kohli
Dhoni (c) (wk)
Yuvraj
Gurkeerat/Raina
Jadeja
Binny/Dhawan
Bhvi/Irfan
Ishant/Umesh
Shami/Sran


definitely that side looks much more balanced and with better hitters too. I would add in Harbhajan and Chawla as the back up spinners in case there is a track which offers a bit of turn. Ash surely needs to be considered surplus in conditions like Australia where his best weapon (accuracy and variation) is bunted just by the sheer volume of the 2s these Aussie batsmen can take off him, esp. through those really annoying chip shots to long on and deep midwicket.


EDIT: The best thing about the side like the one I Posted above is that everyone but the top 4 can bowl and everyone but the last 2 can bat. It will help solve so many issues for the side.
 
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Prince EWS

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I don't think 10 overs of Dhawan will be any better than 10 overs of Jadeja going by the comments about his bowling tbh.
Yeah but maybe 5 overs of Dhawan and 5 overs of Jadeja, or some other breakdown like that depending on the conditions on the day and who's bowling well would be.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
This will be the XI if they go by my suggestion in the previous post.


Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Rahane
Dhoni
Gurkeerat
Jadeja
Dhawan
Bhuvi
Ishant
Sran



Not the worst side though it can be better.
 

weldone

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Yeah that's probably true, but they're also not conditions you can rely on 20 overs of spin. Perhaps Rishi Dhawan in for a batsman might make some sense; Jadeja is probably a better fit than Pandey for the situation Pandey is likely to come in at anyway.
If Melbourne has bigger boundaries, then I'll definitely keep both Ashwin and Jadeja. I'll also not change the batting lineup - you can't assume everyday Rohit, Kohli and Rahane will play well. If we lose the 3rd wicket in 25th or 30th over, Pandey may need to play a bigger role.
 
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TheJediBrah

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If Melbourne has bigger boundaries, then I'll definitely keep both Ashwin and Jadeja. I'll also not change the batting lineup - you can't assume everyday Rohit, Kohli and Rahane will play well. If we lose the 3rd wicket in 25th or 30th over, Pandey may need to play a bigger role.
Big boundaries doesn't necessarily help the spinners. The straight hits at the MCG are still very achievable and you can really milk the spinners into big gaps for 2s all day,
 

Daemon

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Big boundaries doesn't necessarily help the spinners. The straight hits at the MCG are still very achievable and you can really milk the spinners into big gaps for 2s all day,
Problem is we've got **** all back up options. Bhuvi in for Jadeja maybe but then we lose even more finishing power.

Don't think we can bring in Bhuv/Dhawan for one of the batsmen like PEWS suggested. Going to have to agree with weldone, it's not everyday that the top order will make big scores.
 
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TheJediBrah

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Problem is we've got **** all back up options. Bhuvi in for Jadeja maybe but then we lose even more finishing power.

Don't think we can bring in Bhuv/Dhawan for one of the batsmen like PEWS suggested. Going to have to agree with weldone, it's not everyday that the top order will make big scores.
Don't disagree. Just saying that Melbourne's big boundaries shouldn't really be a factor and you should be playing both spinners regardless because they're almost certainly both in your top 4-5 bowlers even in these conditions.
 

Shri

Mr. Glass
The issue is Ash is the better spinner if you are playing the lone spinner but Jadeja adds so much with his batting and fielding. It really is a tough choice for MSD and I honestly wish they would just let Yuvi back in the ODIs till the rest of the team settles down. Play him as the #5, move MSD to 4, let Rahane partner Rohit till Dhawan gets his bearings right, add in Raina/Gurkeerat at 6 and a seamer allrounder like Dhawan/Pathan/Binny at 7 and 8 along with Jadeja and then play 3 more seamers. All of a sudden you got lot more options as a bowling unit and a bit more depth in the batting. Which we so desperately need given we do not have match winning bowlers in this format.
Might as well hang a 2009 calendar on the wall.
 

Shri

Mr. Glass
Also think Dhoni doesn't know how to use Ashwin these days. Would bowl better under Kohli's captaincy I think.
 

Top_Cat

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But yeah even after a slow start and basically pacing themselves for the middle overs, the Aussies did it easy. Bowling was really poor, first 5 overs were like a bad net.
 

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