Is Chris Gayle some sort of perverted misogynist or can everyone just settle down?

[harsh.ag]

At least I got everyone to agree unanimously on something. I've done you all a favour.

Infract yourself ****

 

[Spark]

If you can actually drag yourself through it, or do what I did and skip to the end after facepalming at the opening couple of paragraphs, I think his point is that cartoonish prejudice isn't funny, and if Gayle's offended by the first 80% of the article, he should understand how Mel felt about what he did. Which isn't a terrible point, but it's a not-terrible point made absolutely awfully.

I mean seriously, talk about burying the lead. You just don't publish that ****. Absolutely awful article regardless of the point it was trying to make.

Like, it's one thing to write it—I know full well that some ideas sound much better in your head than on paper, and you don't realise that until after you've written that piece—but somewhere there's an editor out there who's gone and read that for the first time and gone "mm, yeah, let's publish this ****"

 

[cnerd123]

And just like that, we are onto post #823

 

[91Jmay]

I think that it is fair to say that there are lots of people in the media who feel far more comfortable heavily criticising a black guy from the Caribbean so the dog whistle 'culture' card can be played. Plenty of white blokes in Aus, UK etc who see 'their' cultures as ***ist but conveniently ignore our own being equally so.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I didn't say it at the time since smali and thierry henry's attempts at considering a racial element in the OTT backlash was seen as playing the race card to defend Gayle, but this just cannot be ignored. Gayle did a terribly douchebag thing but he doesn't deserve nonsense like this.

 

[sledger]

In which Malcolm Knox loses his mind completely: The trouble with being Chris Gayle - it all comes down to respect

(no, I didn't get to the end)

Oh boy

 

[Spark]

I didn't say it at the time since smali and thierry henry's attempts at considering a racial element in the OTT backlash was seen as playing the race card to defend Gayle, but this just cannot be ignored. Gayle did a terribly douchebag thing but he doesn't deserve nonsense like this.

More to the point, the rest of the Caribbean doesn't deserve nonsense like this.

 

[indiaholic]

I didn't say it at the time since smali and thierry henry's attempts at considering a racial element in the OTT backlash was seen as playing the race card to defend Gayle, but this just cannot be ignored. Gayle did a terribly douchebag thing but he doesn't deserve nonsense like this.

Just one terrible article, right? Where else are you seeing race being brought into the picture?

 

[sledger]

I didn't say it at the time since smali and thierry henry's attempts at considering a racial element in the OTT backlash was seen as playing the race card to defend Gayle, but this just cannot be ignored. Gayle did a terribly douchebag thing but he doesn't deserve nonsense like this.

Yeah, I agree. Goes back to the whole moral high-ground thing. I've said throughout the thread that the condemnation of Gayle is absolutely right, and the weight of popular opinion seems to be with me on this one, but the best way to devalue that whole standpoint is to have it fronted by trash like this. Whatever point the author is trying to make here, this piece surely does more harm than good.

 

[cnerd123]

Its the age we live in tho. Once something passes critical mass in popularity, it becomes a massive unstoppable ****storm till the next viral outrage.

Here you have Chris Gayle, the BBL, ***ism and the Aussie media. All the elements for a massively overblown story. I really don't think there are any racial undertones at all.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Just one terrible article, right? Where else are you seeing race being brought into the picture?

I don't. But I'm just considering the fact that one of the reasons the backlash has been so severe may be because of the colour of Gayle's skin. Not saying it is or isn't since I'm a *****, but the possibility cannot be easily dismissed.

 

[sledger]

Its the age we live in tho. Once something passes critical mass in popularity, it becomes a massive unstoppable ****storm till the next viral outrage.

Here you have Chris Gayle, the BBL, ***ism and the Aussie media. All the elements for a massively overblown story. I really don't think there are any racial undertones at all.

I agree, but articles like this one rather open the door for people to suggest there are. Which is one of the main reasons why its publication was extremely ill-advised.

 

[cnerd123]

Yeah, I agree. Goes back to the whole moral high-ground thing. I've said throughout the thread that the condemnation of Gayle is absolutely right, and the weight of popular opinion seems to be with me on this one, but the best way to devalue that whole standpoint is to have it fronted by trash like this. Whatever point the author is trying to make here, this piece surely does more harm than good.

Yea we're already seeing the idiots like those over at Cricsim being so annoyed at how OTT the outrage is (and tbf me trolling them isnt helping) that they begin to side with Gayle and start hating on people they believe to be SJWs, Feminazis and White Knights instead. It takes away from the legitimacy of the outrage and ends up painting Gayle as some sort of anti-hero, which is not what we want.

 

[cnerd123]

I don't. But I'm just considering the fact that one of the reasons the backlash has been so severe may be because of the colour of Gayle's skin. Not saying it is or isn't since I'm a *****, but the possibility cannot be easily dismissed.

***ist asshole


The Knox article is amazing. I love it. Legit cannot wait to share it with my Caribbean friends.

Would have been so awesome if he published that before the second test match. Or if there was another Test to come. I imagine it would have riled up the WI players to the point where we would have an actual competitive game.

 

[indiaholic]

I don't. But I'm just considering the fact that one of the reasons the backlash has been so severe may be because of the colour of Gayle's skin. Not saying it is or isn't since I'm a *****, but the possibility cannot be easily dismissed.

Race may be a factor, of course, but don't see why you are giving it credence on the basis of one article. Agree with sledger though that this article will give ammunition to people who think this is a racial issue.

 

[sledger]

Yea we're already seeing the idiots like those over at Cricsim being so annoyed at how OTT the outrage is (and tbf me trolling them isnt helping) that they begin to side with Gayle and start hating on people they believe to be SJWs, Feminazis and White Knights instead. It takes away from the legitimacy of the outrage and ends up painting Gayle as some sort of anti-hero, which is not what we want.

Yeah, exactly. It serves only to whip up hysteria about things that have nothing to do with the issue at hand, obfuscating said issue and preventing it from being addressed on its own merits. Woeful. And that's before you consider the fact that the article itself is just utter ****e, regardless of what its potential effects might be.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

In which Malcolm Knox loses his mind completely: The trouble with being Chris Gayle - it all comes down to respect

(no, I didn't get to the end)

 

[Spark]

Just one terrible article, right? Where else are you seeing race being brought into the picture?

The Renegades CEO pinning it on "cultural factors" is unquestionably racial.

 

[indiaholic]

So the people defending him are doing it because he is black?

 

[Spark]

So the people defending him are doing it because he is black?

?

Where did this come from?