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***Official*** England in South Africa 2015/16

Marius

Marius

International Debutant
Will be interesting to see what happens with SA if Steyn and Abbott are both fit, I don't see Morris getting another game if either are fit, but what will happen to Rabada? I suspect they'll keep him in. Also, have a feeling Cook will finally get his chance.

So, my side for Wanderers would be:

Cook
Elgar
Amla
De Villiers
Du Plessis
Bavuma
De Kock
Steyn
Rabada
Piedt
Morkel
 
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Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
***** said:
Man the Kiwaahs being the new Indians of cricket forums is such an apt analogy. They got a tiny, supremely talented young batsman who they revere like the messiah, they got thrashed in Australia despite tons of pre-series hype and high expectations, the 2015 WC for them was like the 2003 WC for India...

Its perfect.
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I can think of 1.26 billion differences though.
 
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Stefan9

International Debutant
Same squad for the last 2 tests, no stephen cook Odi squad announced:

Proteas squads:

Test

AB de Villiers (Titans, captain), Kyle Abbott (Dolphins), Hashim Amla (Cape Cobras), Temba Bavuma (Highveld Lions), Quinton de Kock (Titans), JP Duminy (Cape Cobras), Faf du Plessis (Titans), Dean Elgar (Titans), Morne Morkel (Titans), Chris Morris (Titans), Dane Piedt (Cape Cobras), Kagiso Rabada (Highveld Lions), Rilee Rossouw (Knights), Dale Steyn (Cape Cobras), Stiaan van Zyl (Cape Cobras), Hardus Viljoen (Highveld Lions)

ODI

AB de Villiers (Titans, captain), Kyle Abbott (Dolphins), Hashim Amla (Cape Cobras), Farhaan Behardien (Titans), Quinton de Kock (Titans), JP Duminy (Cape Cobras), Faf du Plessis (Titans), Imran Tahir (Dolphins), David Miller (Dolphins), Morne Morkel (Titans), Chris Morris (Titans), Kagiso Rabada (Highveld Lions), Rilee Rossouw (Knights), Dale Steyn (Cape Cobras)
 
burr

burr

State Vice-Captain
I only realised today this is a four test series. What a pleasant surprise. This is turning into a cracker. C'mon Saffers.
 
S

Stefan9

International Debutant
Convener of selectors on the exclusion of stephen cook

Zondi: Cook is not forgotten

January 8, 2016
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Despite picking an unchanged squad for the final two Tests, convener of selectors Linda Zondi says Stephen Cook remains part of their plans.

However, they want to give Stiaan van Zyl a fair chance to prove himself.

Cricket South Africa (CSA) announced an unchanged squad for the Tests at the Wanderers and Centurion, much to the dismay of cricket supporters who want to see Cook get a chance at the top of the order.

Zondi told SACricketmag.com it wasn’t an easy decision to keep the squad unchanged.

‘Stephen Cook is very close in our thinking, but we want to give Stiaan a run and back him, especially at the Wanderers. South Africa have only batted three innings in the series so far,’ hinting that the India tour isn’t really a factor, because all the batsmen struggled there.

Cook (33) has been one of the standout batsmen in domestic cricket over the last year or so and seems an obvious choice at the top of the order, but he’ll have to wait his turn, just like Van Zyl did before he first got picked.

‘It’s a very nice problem to have,’ Zondi said. ‘It shows our franchise cricket is strong.’

He did not, however, discount the possibility that a player from outside the squad could be called up for the final Test if the selectors deemed it necessary.

‘Absolutely. Announcing an unchanged squad doesn’t stop us from doing that and bringing someone in for Centurion, but it is very important to give stability to the team.

‘I understand the frustration that has been aired on social media. All the players we are looking at are part of the South African A squad so Cook is definitely in our plans. His age is not a concern. If a player is good enough his age doesn’t matter.’

Zondi said it was a concern that Hashim Amla is coming in too early on a regular basis. He also said there was a big gap between domestic and SA A cricket and SA A cricket and international cricket.

Zondi was asked to clarify who picks the starting XI for any particular match. It is well known that the selection panel selects the squad, but who has the final say on the team that plays?

‘The final XI is picked by the coach and the convener of selectors, which is me, but if I am not available then one of the other members of the panel will be involved. For example, Ashwell Prince was our representative for the New Year’s Test because he is based in Cape Town.

‘The captain’s input is always taken into consideration and 99% of the time they usually get the team they want, so we always speak to them to find out what their thoughts and needs are for a specific game.’

Zondi said while there is an established pecking order in place when new players are considered, there is flexibility within that order.

That is why, for example, Hardus Viljoen was called up to the squad for the second Test instead of Marchant de Lange, who was the back-up bowler for the India tour.

In terms of selection for the third Test, Zondi admitted there was a temptation to play four seamers, but that depended on the input of the new captain, AB de Villiers, and the track record of the Wanderers over the last few years.

- See more at: Zondi: Stephen Cook is not forgotten
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Zondi: Stephen Cook is not forgotten
 
Bijed

Bijed

International Regular
I may well be talking rubbish (wouldn't be at all unlike me), but I'm not that surprised that van Zyl has gotten another go - I know his run out looked bad, but I didn't think it was really his fault, so that innings wouldn't really have changed the selectors' view of him, even if he only scored 4.

I've only started following cricket properly relatively recently, so my assessment of these things is likely to be awful, though.
 
Bijed

Bijed

International Regular
Had to look him up, which answers your question. Having seen who he is, I now remember being quite impressed by some of his bowling against New Zealand (was only following of Cricinfo, mind). Wouldn't really declare myself to be a fan, though.

(This feels like some kind of initiation question)
 
cnerd123

cnerd123

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Just wondering why Charmander is your avvie.

The real initation question is "Is Chris Gayle some sort of perverted misogynist or can everyone just settle down?"
 
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