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***Official*** West Indies in Australia 2015/16

Neil Pickup

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Terrible umpiring on no-balls. If there's 3 wickets overturned due to it being over the line, how many are they missing?
Terrible bowling. How many times are they failing to get their feet behind that massive, obvious white line?
 

cnerd123

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Terrible bowling. How many times are they failing to get their feet behind that massive, obvious white line?
Bowlers dont look at the crease when they run in

They measure their run up out, and let muscle memory do the rest

They trust an umpire will do his job and call a no-ball if they overstep, so they can drag their bowling marker back a couple of inches and prevent it from happening again.

But if the umpire doesnt call it, the bowler doesnt know. He obviously assumes his foot is landing right and so keeps on bowling.

Then he takes a wicket and finds out he has been overstepping the whole time, and people blame them for 'failing to get their feet behind the massive, obvious white line'

Well maybe if the umpire did his ****ing job then they would have.
 

Spikey

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They're under order not to call them unless they are certain it's a no-ball. The first Patto one and the Haze one is so marginal it would be insane to call them live
 

cnerd123

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They are allowed to warn the bowler that he is close to overstepping though. And if they did that then the bowler has only himself to blame. But I don't recall the last time I've seen an umpire warn a bowler about where his feet are landing.
 

Shri

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Smith is being ridiculous with his declarations. Almost like he's trying too hard to send a message. Get your 100 ffs. You don't need two ****ing days to bowl these jokers out.
 

Tangles

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Bowlers dont look at the crease when they run in

They measure their run up out, and let muscle memory do the rest

They trust an umpire will do his job and call a no-ball if they overstep, so they can drag their bowling marker back a couple of inches and prevent it from happening again.

But if the umpire doesnt call it, the bowler doesnt know. He obviously assumes his foot is landing right and so keeps on bowling.

Then he takes a wicket and finds out he has been overstepping the whole time, and people blame them for 'failing to get their feet behind the massive, obvious white line'

Well maybe if the umpire did his ****ing job then they would have.
Maybe they could measure out their run up so that they are not so close to the line that over striding puts them over it.
 

cnerd123

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Maybe they could measure out their run up so that they are not so close to the line that over striding puts them over it.
Why should they sacrifice that tiny advantage because the umpires are incompetent? If the umpires did their jobs properly this wouldn't be a problem.
 

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Throwing it out there: is Marsh now a better bowler than Siddle in Australian conditions?
Was going to post the same thing earlier but B3 took a wicket at about that time

Based on what we've seen this year (and last tbh), Sidds is just about done in most Oz conditions
 

Tangles

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Why should they sacrifice that tiny advantage because the umpires are incompetent? If the umpires did their jobs properly this wouldn't be a problem.
I'm skeptical that 6 inches is an advantage. For bowling anway. Umpires are probably focusing on the lbws knowing that the DRS might show them up (at a guess).
 

cnerd123

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I'm skeptical that 6 inches is an advantage. For bowling anway. Umpires are probably focusing on the lbws knowing that the DRS might show them up (at a guess).
I'm sceptical too, but I'm hardly going to blame the players for pushing the limits of the laws when the people in charge of enforcing them are the ones screwing up.

Umpires are definitely checking for the no-balls less than they used to. Might be because they are trying harder to get the marginal lbw/edge calls correct in fear of being made to look bad by DRS, but it might also be because they know they can always take a second look at deliveries that result in wickets.

Either way, it is extremely unfair on the bowlers who literally have no other way of knowing that they are overstepping except for the umpire. As it stands they may overstep several times without being aware of it, only to have a wicket overturned because of a no-ball.
 

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