Skyliner
International 12th Man
Also true that bowler with large amount of games played does soemtime not on song be
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***Official*** Sri Lanka in New Zealand 2015
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OverratedSanity
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Imagine if we judged Sachin by his 3 worst innings: Top edging a wild pull shot vs Glen McGrath in the first over chasing 350
Choking again in the WC final 8 years
Scoring 100 in close to 150 balls in an ODI vs freaking Bangladesh in a vain attempt to get his century of centuries.
Clearly an overrated hack.I think we can do this very easily for most players.
kiwiviktor81
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An early duck doesn't count as a 'worst innings'. It's just a bad one. Sucking up 80 balls to score 33 and then losing by 8 runs is an atrocious innings, and dispels the myth that Bevan timed all his innings to perfection.
RossTaylorsBox
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That isn't a myth because literally no one believes it.
Zinzan
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Who in the world ever said Bevan timed 'all' his 195 ODI innings to perfection.
Burgey
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This is terrible. Just revisionist stuff. Williamson is a fine player but how you could rate him ahead of Ponting as a player in any format is beyond me. Fmd Ponting won three WCs, two as captain and was imperious as you could imagine at three. Williamson (at this stage at least) isn't a patch on him as an ODI player. Let's get fair dinkum here mate.
Bevan played the role he had to play in a great ODI side and played it nearly to perfection.
kiwiviktor81
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This would be my Oceania XI
1. Guptill
2. Gilchrist (wk)
3. Williamson
4. Ponting
5. Hussey
6. Taylor
7. C Cairns (5)
8. Warne (4)
9. Hadlee (3)
10. Bond (2)
11. McGrath (1)
1. Guptill
2. Gilchrist (wk)
3. Williamson
4. Ponting
5. Hussey
6. Taylor
7. C Cairns (5)
8. Warne (4)
9. Hadlee (3)
10. Bond (2)
11. McGrath (1)
kiwiviktor81
International Debutant
To be fair, I asked for a list of players who would definitely make it into an Oceania XI. Someone said Ponting - and I said I was surprised that he's a "definite" pick over a guy averaging 6 runs more than him. I didn't say I rated KW ahead of Ponting.
Gob
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Ponting has 10k more runs for ffs
kiwiviktor81
International Debutant
Gob
International Coach
Have heaps of people said that Williamson belongs over Ponting?
TheJediBrah
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You've got to be the most blindly parochial poster on the forum
I don't even mean that as bad thing but it's funny to see
edit: because you'll surely ask:
Far better than Guptill & Taylor: Hayden, Mark Waugh, Steve Waugh, Dean Jones, Bevan, Michael Clarke, Damien Martyn, Symonds, Steve Smith and probably about 30-40 guys players that just never got much of a chance at ODI cricket because they couldn't get in the team
I can't really fault your picks of Hadlee/Bond. There are half a dozen or more Aus bowlers who would be about as good but not definitively better.
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Gob
International Coach
haha yes
i mean Ross Taylor
kiwiviktor81
International Debutant
Tbf I'd probably pick Hayden in Aussie conditions.
Skyliner
International 12th Man
Turner averaged bugger all against the top sides in ODI's. I remember watching him giving the emerging Sri Lankan's hell in the 80's. He made it look easy, but he was a seasoned pro against players just starting out in international cricket. Sri Lanka were the new kids on the block back then, held in the same regard as the Banga's went they started out. And of course there was that big 170 against mighty East Africa.
kiwiviktor81
International Debutant
Would you rather have Bevan? Let's do a comparison
Average: Bevan 53, Taylor 44
Strike Rate: Bevan 74, Taylor 82
Fours per 1,000 balls: Bevan 48, Taylor 67
Sixes per 1,000 balls: Bevan 2, Taylor 17 (this is not a typo)
Why would I want a guy who hits one boundary every 20 balls coming in at 6? I want someone upping the strike rate, and Taylor hits literally eight times as many sixes as Bevan.
Athlai
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Rubbish post.